When building your business means hiding that it's black-owned

[David_TheMan]

Care about what? The point that I made had nothing to do with what you're interested in. And your initial statement had nothing to do with your interests. You made a remark. Colicat said exactly what I was thinking in her post. And your reply had holes in it. What you want me to tell you?

My initial statement was in response to the person it was directed at.
You and another person want to talk about glass half empty, as if it makes any sense to me, when it doesn't.
You compalin about me taking a statement from the article as well and cry about i.
Like i said what you are complaining about is your own take on what you are trying to read into what I typed.
You say I have holes, but my use of the statement in question is simply a fact of the matter of the article.
So again, what are you really complaining to me about?
I mean its obvious you wanted my attention by quoting my post, what do you want exactly?

 

[RAX 010]

I thought about doing this as well...

 

[mson]

My initial statement was in response to the person it was directed at.
You and another person want to talk about glass half empty, as if it makes any sense to me, when it doesn't.
You compalin about me taking a statement from the article as well and cry about i.
Like i said what you are complaining about is your own take on what you are trying to read into what I typed.
You say I have holes, but my use of the statement in question is simply a fact of the matter of the article.
So again, what are you really complaining to me about?
I mean its obvious you wanted my attention by quoting my post, what do you want exactly?

You can't use that statement as proof that black people don't buy black. When there's data in the article that proves otherwise. That's my major point.

 

[Will Ross]

nobody in this thread said a white person said they wouldnt buy from them because they were black...its all assumed.

This thread is a good example of a the misinformation spread in the black community.
We keep telling each other its not possible and everyone is out to get us. That does nothing but hold us back.
People took from that article that white people wont shop in black owned business...and there was literally no proof of it in the article. Just an example of someone that chose to do it based on his pre conceived notions.

Money speaks louder than race, gender, etc....
If someone can profit from you..or get a good deal from you...they will ignore everything else.

For example Chik Fil A...
...I was working around a lot of gay people when the owner and said he didnt support gay marriage.
Most of the gay folks were like...yea he's fuked up, but thats some good chicken

If you provide value for people...even if the person is racist, at the very least, they are going to ignore their preconceived notions about a whole group because it benefits them...or they are going to view you as different from others.

You think everyone that shops at 7/11 has good feelings about Arabs & Indians?

If you don't live in a area with a black middle class your black bussiness will fail.

 

[Mook]

black capitalism has never historically worked at all.. we have tried repeatedly to embrace capitalism but it has destroyed the black community and the whites in cooperation ditched the black owners and they fell into great debt; the playing field got too large so only a small number of blacks are allowed to be owners or else capitalism is disrupted. Capitalism and race are the two driving forces in the creation and sustaining of racial oppression in the United States.

Not true at all, black people had two black wall streets that were sabotaged.

 

[Reginald Noble]

Like I told the last dude kicking this dumb shyt why don't you focus on these businesses yourself and let those that have talents in other things focus on theirs? Cats always trying to tell you how to do something when more times than not they don't have none of the shyt they talking about themselves. That's very annoying. On top of that this dude in one sentence say stop doing barbershops and the like and in the next fukking sentence its don't do stuff you don't know. Smfh come on fam you all over the place but when people talking crazy its not unexpected. Just worry about your damn self not these cats that's already found their niche in life. Like Ive said everybody don't have the skills, want to, etc to be some millionaire/billionaire with the jobs and the requirements it usually takes to get there. If you do great go do it but stop with this everybody gotta do it shyt when if you just live this thing called life you'll see most people just work a regular job and live a regular life. That's what it is

My dude with complete respect you got no idea what you talking bout. The reason you annoyed is because you either guilty of this or guilty of supporting positions behind this non-sensical approach that we typically have when starting a business.

Barbershops is not a niche dude. See that's the problem with a lot of yall you got no clue what the terminology is. Niche truly means something not easily replicated. How many nikkas claim they cut hair and saturate the market driving down costs. Stop it.

A lot of nikkas who PROMOTE MEDIOCRITY such as yourself in this instance always go to the deep end and assume we expect every nikka to be a millionaire - We know it's not possible.

But the difference between working for $10k a year in walmart and making 45k running your own shop (in the beginning stages) is clear.

And you are promoting this notion that "not everybody able" that same old jimmity jammity jive turkey bullshyt these lazy ass methusula looking American BW brainwashed by Massa are promoting.

fukk all that noise. If a Black Man doesn't want to acquire the skills he needs to succeed he should be eliminated. We have NO ROOM in our community for slackers that don't want to pay their own way. Feed those nikkas to the wolves and empower those who have the drive to do better for themselves. Ain't no reason a grown man over the age of 30 should be coddled in any way shape or form. I was never given the option to slack. It was either RISE TO MY OWN POTENTIAL or get the fukk on and become disassociated completely from my fam.

And what the fukk do you mean "Live this thing called Life" nikka WE CANNOT AFFORD TO EASE ON BY ON A REGULAR JOB AND LIVE A "REGULAR" LIFE WE AIN'T WHITE nikka. WHAT ROSE COLORED GATED COMMUNITY YOU WAS RAISED IN nikka?

LIFE IS A COMPETITION IN THIS COUNTRY AND IF YOU COME IN LAST YOU DON'T GET A PAT ON THE BACK nikka THIS AIN'T NO CHILD LEFT BEHIND. YOUR BLACK ASS GETTING PUT IN JAIL, HARASSED BY THE IRS, HOMELESS ON THE STREETS AND KNOCKED THE fukk DOWN BY SOME WILD LITTLE nikkaS RAISED WITH NO DADDY. MEDIOCRE IS THE 1ST STEP ON THE WAY TO FAILURE AND WE ONLY GET 1 STRIKE - WAKE THE fukk UP.

 

[Drake is God]

Not true at all, black people had two black wall streets that were sabotaged.

At the most, if all blacks supported black businesses (which we did before), the biggest percentage that capitalism would allow to be successful business owners is under percent; When the shyt got too big, the political economy of the 1940s and 1950s shut that shyt down by redlining, and we were back to square one; Then we tried it again in the 1970s and AGAIN, the shifting political economy and Reaganism shut that shyt down. Like I said, keep dreaming on capitalism and its gonna get shut down AGAIN.

 

[jilla82]

You're thinking like a black person who isnt a black business owner

is it?
I dont know anyone successful that has a victim mentality.

This is a great book to check out...it shows the type of mindset you have to have in order to make it...regardless of race.

Its one of my favorite books ever

 

[jilla82]

You can't use that statement as proof that black people don't buy black. When there's data in the article that proves otherwise. That's my major point.

where is there proof in the article?
the article litterally doesnt prove anything...its just people stating opinions.

its like pointing at a coli post and saying..."look at that post, thats my proof".

 

[jilla82]

I know exactly what Capitalism is. Capitalism is defined by its steep inequality, meaning that the small population at the top seeks to make the most profit possible from the cheapest labor cost possible from the large masses; That means paying as little as possible to the masses; then when mix in global and national economic markers like GDP, CPI, etc., producers (capitalists) decide to raise the cost of living based on those measures but keep wages for their workers down...therefore, crime is created out of a necessity to fight the results of capitalism and they bytch ass police are only created in history to protect private property and serve the rich (to protect and serve)...that's the only reason they were created: keep the masses poor and segregated from the small rich class so they do infiltrate that group and upset the balance between owner/labor force....anybody that argues that capitalism is not that is a pro-capitalist apologist and a fool; its foundational...constitutive; its the major reason behind the oppression and genocide for every marginalized group throughout history, especially Blacks and Native Americans. Educational systems in this country teach students from preschool to be competitive and that those who don't work hard in America don't deserve to survive in capitalism, which is not true...so how can anyone argue pro-capitalist and not accept that it is the major catalyst for crime, racialised oppression, etc. if they know history and economics? They can't and they only argue pro-capitalist because they are greedy fukks that got mindfukked by the American system of lies..

The majority black population in America is working class and the president's job is to maintain capitalism and restructure it if necessary; If he/she improves the socioeconomic viability of the black working class, he will shut down capitalism and a crisis would ensue. This is all documented in Du Bois' Black Reconstruction as this almost happened when Andrew Johnson left office and the capitalist system during Reconstruction was almost toppled for various reasons. The only thing that saved it was that the President ended reconstruction with the help of northern capitalists, took the union troops out of the south, had black local officials assassinated, took the land away from the freedmen, and established sharecropping and convict lease system, which transformed capitalism but kept it based on racial oppression.

AGAIN! Capitalism is capitalism regardless of skin color; no one wins but a very small percentage of the race; the rest of us will continue to be exploited and oppressed; dudes are really hustling backwards talking that capitalism bullshyt; all it does is feed the pockets of white banks and corporations; its a lose/lose situation for the black masses; those that know the history of Black capitalism are shaking their heads at movements like these. At the most, if all blacks supported black businesses (which we did before), the biggest percentage that capitalism would allow to be successful business owners is under percent; When the shyt got too big, the political economy of the 1940s and 1950s shut that shyt down by redlining, and we were back to square one; Then we tried it again in the 1970s and AGAIN, the shifting political economy and Reaganism shut that shyt down. Like I said, keep dreaming on capitalism and its gonna get shut down AGAIN.

youre really trying to say America is the same now as it was in the 50's?

And what happened in the 70's that destroyed black businesses?

If you think socialism or communism is the answer
I dont mean to laugh...but bruh, that just shows you've given up...and havent even tried.

You really want a government to take care of you?
I cant believe there are people that think like this

Where are all these people w/ great financial habits, great work ethic, and are doing the right things that end up broke?

I dont know any.
Every broke person I know is broke because of dumb shyt.

 

[Drake is God]

youre really trying to say America is the same now as it was in the 50's?

And what happened in the 70's that destroyed black businesses?

If you think socialism or communism is the answer
I dont mean to laugh...but bruh, that just shows you've given up...and havent even tried.

You really want a government to take care of you?
I cant believe there are people that think like this

Where are all these people w/ great financial habits, great work ethic, and are doing the right things that end up broke?

I dont know any.
Every broke person I know is broke because of dumb shyt.

In Capitalism the majority are employees, and an employee is a cost of doing business. If the employee doesn't generate more income than they cost, that employee is going to get fired or the business is going to go broke. If you’re the employee, the outcome is the same. Businesses exist to maximize the owner’s equity. It says so in the economics textbooks. It’s a fact.

Why on earth would any black person want to be associated with that kind of thinking?

1. “And one day we must ask the question, ‘Why are there forty million poor people in America? And when you begin to ask that question, you are raising questions about the economic system, about a broader distribution of wealth.’ When you ask that question, you begin to question the capitalistic economy. And I’m simply saying that more and more, we’ve got to begin to ask questions about the whole society…” –Speech to Southern Christian Leadership Conference Atlanta, Georgia, August 16, 1967. - Martin Luther King.

1. Capitalism forgets that life is social. And the kingdom of brotherhood is found neither in the thesis of communism nor the antithesis of capitalism, but in a higher synthesis.”- Martin Luther King.

1. We must recognize that we can’t solve our problem now until there is a radical redistribution of economic and political power… this means a revolution of values and other things. We must see now that the evils of racism, economic exploitation and militarism are all tied together… you can’t really get rid of one without getting rid of the others… the whole structure of American life must be changed. America is a hypocritical nation and [we] must put [our] own house in order.”- Martin Luther King.

1. You can’t talk about solving the economic problem of the Negro without talking about billions of dollars. You can’t talk about ending the slums without first saying profit must be taken out of slums. You’re really tampering and getting on dangerous ground because you are messing with folk then. You are messing with captains of industry. Now this means that we are treading in difficult water, because it really means that we are saying that something is wrong with capitalism.- Martin Luther King.

 

[philmonroe]

My dude with complete respect you got no idea what you talking bout. The reason you annoyed is because you either guilty of this or guilty of supporting positions behind this non-sensical approach that we typically have when starting a business.

Barbershops is not a niche dude. See that's the problem with a lot of yall you got no clue what the terminology is. Niche truly means something not easily replicated. How many nikkas claim they cut hair and saturate the market driving down costs. Stop it.

A lot of nikkas who PROMOTE MEDIOCRITY such as yourself in this instance always go to the deep end and assume we expect every nikka to be a millionaire - We know it's not possible.

But the difference between working for $10k a year in walmart and making 45k running your own shop (in the beginning stages) is clear.

And you are promoting this notion that "not everybody able" that same old jimmity jammity jive turkey bullshyt these lazy ass methusula looking American BW brainwashed by Massa are promoting.

fukk all that noise. If a Black Man doesn't want to acquire the skills he needs to succeed he should be eliminated. We have NO ROOM in our community for slackers that don't want to pay their own way. Feed those nikkas to the wolves and empower those who have the drive to do better for themselves. Ain't no reason a grown man over the age of 30 should be coddled in any way shape or form. I was never given the option to slack. It was either RISE TO MY OWN POTENTIAL or get the fukk on and become disassociated completely from my fam.

And what the fukk do you mean "Live this thing called Life" nikka WE CANNOT AFFORD TO EASE ON BY ON A REGULAR JOB AND LIVE A "REGULAR" LIFE WE AIN'T WHITE nikka. WHAT ROSE COLORED GATED COMMUNITY YOU WAS RAISED IN nikka?

LIFE IS A COMPETITION IN THIS COUNTRY AND IF YOU COME IN LAST YOU DON'T GET A PAT ON THE BACK nikka THIS AIN'T NO CHILD LEFT BEHIND. YOUR BLACK ASS GETTING PUT IN JAIL, HARASSED BY THE IRS, HOMELESS ON THE STREETS AND KNOCKED THE fukk DOWN BY SOME WILD LITTLE nikkaS RAISED WITH NO DADDY. MEDIOCRE IS THE 1ST STEP ON THE WAY TO FAILURE AND WE ONLY GET 1 STRIKE - WAKE THE fukk UP.

fukk all that complete respect non sense you talking stupid as fukk. You stupid ass nikka trying to tell me what niche is don't even know what the fukk your talking about smfh. You've never heard the term they've found their niche aka found what their good at? Come on fam don't go all you don't know what your talking about and the first fukking thing you speaking on you wrong as fukk. That shyt might work around them stupid nikkas you hang around but not on me. Also stupid what promotes mediocrity? Saying everybody can't be rich and maybe them dudes happy doing what they do? How fukking stupid do you sound.

You talking all this and that where is your big money business at? Lead by example but with all this talking I doubt you have one so spare me until you get one. I hope you prove me wrong but you seem like a 9 to 5 dude trying to hype others up when you need to take your own advice. Lastly stupid I'm promoting real life something you claim to know about. If most people aren't rich how the fukk is me saying most people ain't rich some brainwashing? Lay off the drugs nikka and think before you post and stop using smilies and other font tricks for your points like you some high school broad.

 

[David_TheMan]

You can't use that statement as proof that black people don't buy black. When there's data in the article that proves otherwise. That's my major point.

I never argued that black people don't buy black.
So again what are you actually trying to argue?

 

[mson]

I never argued that black people don't buy black.
So again what are you actually trying to argue?

I thought that's what the post implied. I guess I was wrong. Good day sir.

 

[David_TheMan]

I thought that's what the post implied. I guess I was wrong. Good day sir.

No problem, have a good one.