When building your business means hiding that it's black-owned

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Black people also have to get out of the restaurant/beauty salon/barber habit. Those are very limited thinking businesses and also extremely hard to scale up. Any business that you have babysit during business hours is hard to expand.

Repped, exactly. Another thing we have to stop doing is making the same mistake CACs make and investing and owning businesses in industries we know nothing about or isn't our strength.

The process should be: Be a Construction Project Manager > Get into Real Estate and be a Seller or Buyer > Own a Real Estate Firm.

Another example: Be a software dev > IT Project Manager > Be a founder for a Tech co. that solves a problem the others don't.

A lot of nikkas don't want to humble themselves and get experience. They shoot themselves in the foot from the jump.

Food has very low margins along with these beauty products. WE NEED TO ACTUALLY BUILD INFRASTRUCTURE ONLINE/OFFLINE IN ORDER TO DOMINATE.
 

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I was impressed when I found out Spike Lee directed Inside Man.

His fingerprints are all on it once you realize but it stood on it's own. It wasn't a good black movie, it was a good movie.

I was blown away when I found out Dwayne McDuffie was behind the Justice League and JLU cartoons.

RIP to the brother. He created Static among other things. It becomes clear that a black man was at the helm when you look at the John Stewart stuff, but it was a good show to everyone not for a certain demographic.

I like both. I like Martin and Friday and Public Enemy. I also like it when there's a black scientist or inventor quietly creating the future.

This world is broader than our demographic. If you wanna win big you gonna have to sell to everyone. I cringe a little at "hiding" your demo, but you don't have to spell the company name with a "z" at the end and make the Afro Pick with the fist your logo.


These black Brits are making headway too

Idris, Star Wars guy, Director of 12 years a slave
 

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Sad reality but that's the truth. When I did something online like sell stuff or put up ads for a service, I'd not put my picture or anything up. I'd hope they reach out to me and then once I"m there have no choice but to finish. I learned that on Craiglist people would try to skip business with black hands around the product.

Don't nobody gotta know who you are. Just do your shyt, sprinkle some white folks into your advertisement to look "legitimate" and broad and make money.
This entire thread is sad and disheartening. Especially the highlighted. We are simply in a society where black= bad, dirty, ugly and inferior and white= good, pretty and superior. Thats what it boils down to.
 

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Most businesses don't need to have a picture of the owner operator as the face of the business in the website to be successful. I understand having people who look like your target market in order to capture that market, that makes business sense. But with many businesses (mine included) most business is done via email and interfacing directly with the client isn't always necessary.

To be fair though my business is in the black dominated (but not controlled) music industry. But my team (by design) does not reveal our races, gender, or anything else until necessary because it can alienate certain parts of the market we are trying to capture.

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That's why it pays to be a koon and self serving individual.

"I understand startup businesses might think this is a way to get some traction. But at what point do you reveal that the company is black-owned-and-operated?" Jackson said, "If you're concerned about negative stereotypes that are triggered by associations with that, who's to say they won't be triggered once someone realizes that it is, in fact, a black-owned company?"
Once the goal is to make money, then you'll find reasons to continue to focus on that goal. Especially when you have "made it"

You are not born with the motivation to want to build up your community and to want to put your community first, that occurs only when your teachers,parents, and neighbors are motivated by that

White jews, from different tax brackets are motivated/inspired to build their community, with schools dedicated to their narrative because they have instilled among their community members the notion of "we versus the world" via their religion, historical and current events

Black folks:
-"bu bu the past is the past, we need to focus on the now"
-"bu bu as a practicing [enter religion], I'm more connected with anyone that practices the same religion"
-"bu bu it's her money, you can't tell her what to do with it"
-"bu bu if we get more black [enter profession], entrepreneurs or the need to reach critical mass to begin to seriously compete in a white supremacist society"
-"bu bu he's donating his money to charity, like to the RedCross, cancer research, Boys and Girls club and ASPCA"

There are enough black entrepreneurs, engineers, plumbers, corporate folks, construction folks, graphic artist, musician, garbage collectors, and celebs, to create a black economic structure, but there are not enough who are motivated, willing to risk their own resources, and to unapologetically follow a black-based agenda
 

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You are wrong.
Try to read Race and Economics and educate yourself on teh long history of black capitalist and business success in this nation.

The loss of a black economic base was mainly caused by blacks abandoning it because more than a few internalized white supremacist arguments that what they did themselves would never be as good as what white people did. Sad that even today business owners recognize that its still a large barrier to getting blacks to support black ownedbusinesses.



What is glass half empty about what I said?
Nothing at all, I stated a fact from the article.


That wasn't a fact from the article. It was someone's statement from the article. The person you quoted stated a fact from the article. Seems like you were trying to make a point that black people do it too. And it was perceived as "half full" because you didn't give the actual data.
 
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I was impressed when I found out Spike Lee directed Inside Man.

His fingerprints are all on it once you realize but it stood on it's own. It wasn't a good black movie, it was a good movie.

I was blown away when I found out Dwayne McDuffie was behind the Justice League and JLU cartoons.

RIP to the brother. He created Static among other things. It becomes clear that a black man was at the helm when you look at the John Stewart stuff, but it was a good show to everyone not for a certain demographic.

I like both. I like Martin and Friday and Public Enemy. I also like it when there's a black scientist or inventor quietly creating the future.

This world is broader than our demographic. If you wanna win big you gonna have to sell to everyone. I cringe a little at "hiding" your demo, but you don't have to spell the company name with a "z" at the end and make the Afro Pick with the fist your logo.
Strangely, the black folks you referenced is doing exactly what you're suggesting, don't cater to one demographic, but yet they are/were limited in their opportunities, award recognition, and financial backing
 

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Repped, exactly. Another thing we have to stop doing is making the same mistake CACs make and investing and owning businesses in industries we know nothing about or isn't our strength.

The process should be: Be a Construction Project Manager > Get into Real Estate and be a Seller or Buyer > Own a Real Estate Firm.

Another example: Be a software dev > IT Project Manager > Be a founder for a Tech co. that solves a problem the others don't.

A lot of nikkas don't want to humble themselves and get experience. They shoot themselves in the foot from the jump.

Food has very low margins along with these beauty products. WE NEED TO ACTUALLY BUILD INFRASTRUCTURE ONLINE/OFFLINE IN ORDER TO DOMINATE.
Like I told the last dude kicking this dumb shyt why don't you focus on these businesses yourself and let those that have talents in other things focus on theirs? Cats always trying to tell you how to do something when more times than not they don't have none of the shyt they talking about themselves. That's very annoying. On top of that this dude in one sentence say stop doing barbershops and the like and in the next fukking sentence its don't do stuff you don't know. Smfh come on fam you all over the place but when people talking crazy its not unexpected. Just worry about your damn self not these cats that's already found their niche in life. Like Ive said everybody don't have the skills, want to, etc to be some millionaire/billionaire with the jobs and the requirements it usually takes to get there. If you do great go do it but stop with this everybody gotta do it shyt when if you just live this thing called life you'll see most people just work a regular job and live a regular life. That's what it is

This entire thread is sad and disheartening. Especially the highlighted. We are simply in a society where black= bad, dirty, ugly and inferior and white= good, pretty and superior. Thats what it boils down to.
Nah this thread is realistic. That's not sad because in one breath you can't say we should support our own then the next its sad when people actually do that. Its either one or the other whats your choice?
 

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It's sad but unfortunately it can be necessary depending on the type of business it is. Obviously if it's something pertaining to hair such as a barbershop or beauty salon it wouldn't be necessary and could potentially hurt your business. For businesses that would have a large or majority non black customer base this could become necessary. Those are the unfortunate breaks living in a white majority country.

That why I keep saying it ........ people of African descent need to take their education/training/skill sets/interests and invest and partner within the Diaspora....and most definitely in Africa itself............this has got to be part of the black economic development mantra going forward. I'm not saying all your time and energy has to be in Africa, but at very least research the possibilities and make it part of the dialogue.

I'm not saying its right or wrong to conceal one's race to do business......I guess the thread really gives me a clearer understanding of programs like DBEs....example Disadvantaged Business Enterprise Program. The only thing I can say is don't stand still, regardless of hurdles (Takes my own advice).
 
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This is the sad truth. I know people who have non black people in figure head roles because of this. It actually works out better for them but still..

Yep homie it is the truth. My parents have a friend who I have talked about on here who is a millionaire. The sister owned two high rise condos and she had tons of issues selling the individual condos to white folks.

They would call about the condo and see it and they would ask her who was the owner. She would say it was her and then the white folks would make an excuse to not buy the condo.

She did this for months and finally said fukk it these white folks ask I will pretend someone else owns it.

After she started to pretend someone else owned the condos.....she was selling them like hot cakes to white folks.

Black people just do not understand how white folks do not like to fukk with black folks when it comes to business. Outside of some soul food, cleaning houses or music.
 

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It also stated that a majority (55%) of black households making 50k or more actually would support Black business...

Be a glass half empty breh

True I am in that group and will actually pay more for shyt if it is from a black owned business.
 
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