When did hip hop fall off to you?

[DaveyDave]

I don’t follow it like I once did but that’s more due to me being 40 and having kids etc. I don’t have the time to sit around listening to music all day and digging through underground artists etc. the equivalent of going to blogs/buying The Source etc these days I guess would be knowing a few go to playlists on Spotify that keep you up to date with new artists and new styles, new songs and albums. I just don’t have the time. i come to the Coli to get new artists etc and find out release dates. And I have a couple of other places but usually I just happen to stumble across an artists IG post about their new album or something. Or a random playlist might play something I like and I dive more into that when I have a chance. Perfect example is one my fav Aussie MCs just released a new album the other day, I knew earlier this year it was “coming” but stumbled across his post on IG saying it was out a couple of days ago. Could’ve been out for a week or a month I wouldn’t have known. Spotify is shyt for actually telling you when an artist has dropped even if you follow them on Spotify.

 

[Piff Perkins]

Then when was the last great year?

When the mainstream & underground were both in sync

I thought last year was great. On the major label level I loved Jid's album, Future's album was great, I thought the Drake/21 album was really good, Metro's album was fun, and of course Pusha dropped a great record. On the underground level there were multiple great records. The Billy Woods/Elucid album was nearly perfect in my opinion and my rap AOTY. Roc Marciano's album with Alchemist was stellar, Vince Staples dropped an amazing record, etc. I made a top 10 list last year but could have gone to nearly 20 in terms of good albums I enjoyed.

 

[Bondye Vodou]

*Clearly you boys ain't following it as enthusiasticly as ya once did


*Me included


*So when did this happen? Prolly 2016 around that Designer, Lil Uzi, 21 savage, Lil Yachty xxl era for me personally


*That's when shyt started getting weird



*Never really recovered either




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The irony is…it started with the nikka in ur avi.

 

[Ya Sinning Mane]

Not when nas said it did for damn sure

 

[Wild self]

It really started in 2003, but 2012-17 solidified it.

The only correct answer. By 2003, you had non lyrical rappers that emerged from the south and 50 Cent becoming thee forefront of the culture in the mainstream. A total disconnect from DMX back in 1998. Only thing that tried to rebound was Kanye in 2004 and him providing an alternative path from superthug rap.

Years after 2003, one-hit wonder dances were commonplace and non lyrical raps was the standard. TI, Jeezy, and Gucci Mane made trap rap and their followers sounded worse than the next one, but were excused because "the bytches can shake their ass to it" and "stop hating cause they getting money"

2016 was when Future was pushed as Black Music's new paradigm, and caused a lot of older Hip Hop heads to tap out.

 

[Finesse]

Late 2010's for me.



That Polo G/Trippie Redd/Juice Wrld(rip)/Rod Wave/Lil Tjay era is when I checked out



Havent listened to a single project from any of them nikkas

 

[mrfortune]

when white people started rapping better then black. not talking about eminem

 

[Stick Up Kid]

When the South took over in late 2000’s

Kendrick, Nipsey, Jay Rock, Schoolboy Q, were the standouts tho

 

[Reptile]

Late 2010's for me.



That Polo G/Trippie Redd/Juice Wrld(rip)/Rod Wave/Lil Tjay era is when I checked out



Havent listened to a single project from any of them nikkas

Probably this tbh.

 

[LOOPY]

When the South took over in late 2000’s

Kendrick, Nipsey, Jay Rock, Schoolboy Q, were the standouts tho

*The south is what is keeping hip hop alive


*Imagine if we had to rely on NY n LA offerings only for the last 10 years


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[En Sabah Nur]

Puffy and Master P simultaneously being blowing up as rappers and "you just hating" becoming an excuse for low standards for fans. That was the beginning of decline, but the huge plummet came in late 2000's

 

[RammerJammer]

After Pop Smoke died

Really though, this year, it’s been so bad and I’m never really the one to say that Hip Hop is in bad place but it is right now, music as a whole is.

 

[Playaz Eyez]

When Lil Wayne started getting propped up as the greatest rapper alive, so 2006

 

[315]

99. mid-2000's brought me back

 

[TrapHouse Rock]

Since 2009 NYC....when the underground cats that were crazy weak, were getting props from legends and gained a following I knew shyt was over

and you had other underground cats who were actually nice but got no love who dumbed they shyt down to ride that wack ass wave

Mainstream NY shyt was actually doper than the underground and the "Real hip-hop" cats were complete bums who would have been non factors in the 90s shyt has been done ever since

dikk riding became cool and it wasn't about good music at all the old standard is gone without that everything is meaningless