When did Jordan Stans become so insecure?

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Lebron can have his 40,000 points, 10, 000 assists and 10, 000 rebounds. However, he'll have played 7 or 8 more years than Jordan when he hangs it up. .

Remember when Lebron had 2 rings, they were already putting him up in GOAT debates with Jordan.
Lebron has his people in the media, in a manner no great player in history has ever had ;

sustaining a debate that has no business existing in the 1st place.

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These are the cold hard facts ^^^^^^^ That's a top 10 player in history :mjlol: These are the facts that are rarely ever brought up by sports mainstream media when they do their shoddy 'debates'

And its not just MJ fans. Kobe fans, KD fans, Steph - Magic - Kareem fans are all tired of the shameless media campaigns for Lebron that have been going on non stop for 9 years now.

Its fukking boring now and has been for some time.
 

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Year 6 Bron with Mo Williams and Delonte West as his two and three = 66 wins, one seed, and an ECF appearance
Year 6 Jordan with Scottie Pippen and Hoarce Grant as his two and three = 47 wins, a 6th seed, and an ECF appearance

I guess MJ gets a pass for doing less with more :mjlol:
Jordan after 13 seasons 6 rings 6 fmvp.
Bron after 19 Seasons....
 

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Kobe and bron stans are worse imo....from my view point its the younger fans coming at Jordan fans..saying Jordan played against plumbers and the such
 

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Now this convo though, I can say Mike Stans have always been insecure. I was imprisoned during the Comeback Kobe years and distinctly recall Mike Stans doing everything they could to downplay Kobe as a historical competitor to Mike...

Kobe wasn't as great as Mike. But the point of Mike fans insecurities I saw live on many occasions, and its probably rooted in part at least, to NBA Media's obsession with searching for "the next Michael Jordan" in the late 90s thru early 00s. They kept crowning any athletic scorer, this tag was at some point given to everyone from Vince to Kobe to McGrady and others, and I think the natural reaction from Mike heads was to push back on why these dudes wouldn't and couldn't fill his shoes...

And I absolutely belive without a shadow of a doubt that because no one expected to see anyone rival Mike's stature, the rise of LeBron James sent the Jordan Stanbase into new levels of insecurity. Because if you're gonna rival Mike you gotta do it "Like Mike"----->except Bron did everything his way and became Mike's historical rival...

nikka upthread said nobody in NBA history has had media in their pockets like LeBron. 🤣 🤣 the root of why we exalt Mike as a Basketball Culture the way we do is because this dude has had big, rich, powerful friends in high places for 3+ decades now who devoted billions in money and resources to push the narrative that not only was Mike a greater player than anyone before him, there would never be a greater player after...

If that ain't insecurity I don't know what is, it's not even comparable who, 19 years post-final retirement, STILL has NBA Media and its partners in his back pocket, get the entire fukk outta here 😂...
 

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Big time Jordan fan and I've never felt insecure about his "GOAT-ness". Just like some older cat who may watched Wilt Chamberlains entire career will go to his grave believing no one ever did it better than him and nothing can change their minds. Nothing will change the minds of us Jordan fans who saw his career as it happened. I've also noticed that us from that late 80s-til his retirement love to argue passionately about sports like we would do every morning at school and we may do it with such vigor, that this new softer emotional generation may confuse it with being defensive and insecure
 
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When Kobe started blowing up in the mid 2000s
This.

White Jordan stans used to hate on Kobe hard. Which wad weird to me cause Kobe was basically Jordan 2.0 stylistically. Just goes to show how cacs don't really feel the rhythm of the game the way we do.

If Jalen Green, for example, begins to get talk about being better than Kobe, I wouldn't become a hater. I like the fact his game stylistically follows the blueprint Jordan and Kobe laid. To me it's always been about the game of the player not who the person is.
 

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Now this convo though, I can say Mike Stans have always been insecure. I was imprisoned during the Comeback Kobe years and distinctly recall Mike Stans doing everything they could to downplay Kobe as a historical competitor to Mike...

Kobe wasn't as great as Mike. But the point of Mike fans insecurities I saw live on many occasions, and its probably rooted in part at least, to NBA Media's obsession with searching for "the next Michael Jordan" in the late 90s thru early 00s. They kept crowning any athletic scorer, this tag was at some point given to everyone from Vince to Kobe to McGrady and others, and I think the natural reaction from Mike heads was to push back on why these dudes wouldn't and couldn't fill his shoes...

And I absolutely belive without a shadow of a doubt that because no one expected to see anyone rival Mike's stature, the rise of LeBron James sent the Jordan Stanbase into new levels of insecurity. Because if you're gonna rival Mike you gotta do it "Like Mike"----->except Bron did everything his way and became Mike's historical rival...

nikka upthread said nobody in NBA history has had media in their pockets like LeBron. 🤣 🤣 the root of why we exalt Mike as a Basketball Culture the way we do is because this dude has had big, rich, powerful friends in high places for 3+ decades now who devoted billions in money and resources to push the narrative that not only was Mike a greater player than anyone before him, there would never be a greater player after...

If that ain't insecurity I don't know what is, it's not even comparable who, 19 years post-final retirement, STILL has NBA Media and its partners in his back pocket, get the entire fukk outta here 😂...
klutchsiderock stay on code with the LePropaganda :mjlol: :wow:
 

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Like what year was it that this came about? Was it 2016? That’s when I ended my back and forth with a certain Stan base cause it was obvious who was the better player and the Stan wars got boring, but you Jordan stans been acting like some bytches these last few years. I don’t think I ever seen a goat list where Jordan wasnt number 1 and if I did see a list that he wasn’t number 1 he was number 2 behind Kareem. I know Jordan is the goat, lebron wouldve had to do something crazy like beat one of them kd/curry warriors teams for me to consider him the goat after 2011. I remember them Kobe vs lebron debate but all that shyt died down after it became obvious who was the better player shidd I remember them Brady vs Peyton debates that no one cares to talking about no more cause of the obvious. It’s so obvious to Jordan Stan’s that he is the clear best player in the world has seen but will go back and forth with nikkas all day? I don’t get it, lebron retire and we gone be talking about 2 old nikkas for the next 10 years:damn:


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Was were it started

Then and influx of guys like Kobe, TMac :francis: appeared.

Kobe opened the crack and little bit wider then 2003 happened and every exploded after that.

They just couldn’t take it no more and the bitterness boiled over.

But it started with AI

He was everything MJ wasn’t and a threat

MJ wore baggy Suits/AI wore the street shyt we wore

MJ listened to jazz and pop/AI was straight up hip hop

MJ was on some :mjpls: / AI was strictly for his niccas

AI brought an era in where MJ and his Gen started to look like cornballs
 
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