When did people start to dikkride Andre 3000 like that?

[Youngblood Priest]

Eminem dropping that line definitely played a big part.

That's only fir nikkaz who didn't listen to Ok. 3 stacks just raps his ass off.

 

[Youngblood Priest]

But Atliens was not my favorite verse. I said he had they favorite verse on elevatora

And it's not a valid point. Him saying new found rap fans that like PHARELL and kanye jus show he don't listen to Outkast. Ain't nothing Pharell or kanye about Outkast music but Andre clothes. The fans of Outkast from the 90's and early 2000's are street nikkas. Aware of political issues and the plight of the black man etc. Artistic but southern and playa.

And im starting to think you don't know what your talking about either. Atliens came out in 96 and elevators put them on the next level. But. If you saying they wasn't superstars and was being promoted by Laface like Laface was is known for breaking the budget. You just said they was the second priority. Outkast. Outkast made hit records. It wasn't a machine that made us like Outkast or think Andre is dope. They're music and fans made them number 1. Best new artist. Then Atliens came out. How is it a pedestal he didn't stand on in real time?

He wasn't seen as a top mc in the 90's to who? You up top nikkas (I am assuming) nikkas blew up as pac died. They sold records and had the impact of pac and biggie and they still alive??

He got verse that people like, you ain't gotta think he the best, but people do. Not being a hating as nikka is respecting the fact that Outkast and Andre are legends and in the greatest of all time category.
Andre got timeless verses and timeless songs.

Bruh don't explain to these ducks. 3 stacks been flowing his ass off. I can't even argue with these fukkers. Personally, if these rappers battled for real, I'd put my money on 3 stacks against the grain.

 

[Youngblood Priest]

Without a doubt. I have heard people out of the south though say that Eminem saying it is when it became fashionable for everyone and their mother to start putting him at the top of their lists and what not. I mean he was in my top 3 when ATLiens dropped, but I was a kid in the south, so I don't really have a perspective on what that album was like for everyone else. I remember them at the 95 Source awards getting pretty much ignored and boo'd because they weren't from NY.



Daps, pos rep. Good breakdown.

You said some nice shyt. I'm from th we A and nobody said nothing about em saying he is nice is why we say it. Atl nikkaz was saying he was nice from jump. It's fukked up that it took em to say it for errbody else to recognize.

 

[Youngblood Priest]

So you protecting nikkas from Internet insults. When he came in here with no real point, just to insult a rapper who has accomplished more than any of us lol. Word.

He don't know what he talking about cause Pharell and kanye didn't influence Outkast or 3staks. If anything, it was the other way around.

Being that 96 is when Outkast and Andre flew into national superstardom...

Like a previous poster said, his last verse on elevators was everyone's favorite.

And like I said previously, millennium is when I realized how ill he was, again, before Kanye west moved from his mommas basement.

Outkast definitely wasn't pushed until they broke through. They handed out their own cds in crown royal bags during Freaknik. It was as organic as it gets.

So saying that we find Andre to be a dope rapper because it's an agenda pushed by labels isn't true. Saying MEDIA hype or a white boy is the reason we think he is dope ain't true. The white boy is the reason white people ( and people who didn't listen to rap until the white boy) think he is one of the best ever.

Any body with two ears, half a brain, and some real rap knowledge in that brain.... Will tell you that 3stacks been Ill. And it's not hype. But you would have had to actually played Outkast shyt to have that opinion.

Man, tell these fukk nikkaz. They know not what they speak

 

[Wacky D]

lol.

now we have a bunch of people from atlanta talking about how great outkast's impact was in the '90s, not realizing that theyre thinking like str8 up homers.

dude just compared them to pac & big!!!! not to mention the guy that thought outkast was some sort of underground movement just because he saw them passing cds around at freaknik.

this is too over-whelming right now. i'll be back later. i dont want to go overboard with the clowning and come off disrespectful.

 

[Juneya]

lol.

now we have a bunch of people from atlanta talking about how great outkast's impact was in the '90s, not realizing that theyre thinking like str8 up homers.

dude just compared them to pac & big!!!! not to mention the guy that thought outkast was some sort of underground movement just because he saw them passing cds around at freaknik.

this is too over-whelming right now. i'll be back later. i dont want to go overboard with the clowning and come off disrespectful.

I appreciate your attempt to not be disrespectful, so I will do the same. Salute.

But WE sound like homers?

Bruh did pac or big go diamond??
Are they still here?
How many classics does any of them have? We can debate multiple classics with Outkast.
Who impacted the culture from ANY region like Outkast. Only ones even in competition is pac and big.

Outkast impact did not stop. Lol. It started in the 90's all the way up until the 2004-2005. Some would say still.

But tell me how pac and big mean more to the culture than Outkast? Cause they died? Lol

An underground movement cause hating up top nikkas still don't respect it, so you know they didn't respect it in the middle of they WWF super thug fake rapper era of the 90's.

 

[Truth200]

 

[Michael's Black Son]

Hey Ya

 

[Wacky D]

I appreciate your attempt to not be disrespectful, so I will do the same. Salute.

But WE sound like homers?

Bruh did pac or big go diamond??
Are they still here?
How many classics does any of them have? We can debate multiple classics with Outkast.
Who impacted the culture from ANY region like Outkast. Only ones even in competition is pac and big.

Outkast impact did not stop. Lol. It started in the 90's all the way up until the 2004-2005. Some would say still.

But tell me how pac and big mean more to the culture than Outkast? Cause they died? Lol

An underground movement cause hating up top nikkas still don't respect it, so you know they didn't respect it in the middle of they WWF super thug fake rapper era of the 90's.

And it's not a valid point. Him saying new found rap fans that like PHARELL and kanye jus show he don't listen to Outkast. Ain't nothing Pharell or kanye about Outkast music but Andre clothes. The fans of Outkast from the 90's and early 2000's are street nikkas.

salute.

yea. i say yall sound like homers because yall are looking at it strictly from the perspective of outkast being your hometown heroes. all cities have those tho.

comparing them to pac & big is laughable. outkast wasnt even a top tier group during their era.

outkast impacted the culture how? they werent an impact group breh. they were either a group that you liked or you didnt. they didnt stop time or really command the general public's full attention at any point ever. they also had a very limited amount of influence on the game. at best, they had lost boyz level of popularity. they really werent even that much more popular than goodie mob.

thats not an underground movement dog. they were the exact opposite actually. they came str8 in the game via laface/arista. the biggest machine in black music

also, this very inaccurate. outkast made backpack music. they didnt suffer from up-top bias anywhere near as much as yall make it seem. it was never much of a problem for them. also, the east coast had the least amount of "super thug rappers" out of all the coasts back then.

what hes saying is that outkast's newfound base that gasses up their legacy in retrospect are pulled from the same pool of fans as pharrell & kanye. and thats absolutely true.

as for the street nikkas comment. outkast didnt have the streets on deck, except in southern towns back when they were one of the only ball games in town. they werent who youre dressing them up as.

@ the bolded thats more or less what I said in my first post in this thread, he been dope and waggonists hopped on late as fukk.
If walk it out verse was wack which verses do you actually like? Cuz you would have to be a dumb fukk to go as hard as you have in this thread without doing more than skim-listening to the music

the thing is, most of the waggonists that hopped on late are weirdos and kids who werent around and just feeding into the hype.

and theres no excuse for people to hop on so late. they were mainstream and always one of the better-promoted groups their entire career. its just revisionist history all the way around.

as for the bolded, watch your mouth. thats that chit im talkin bout. and theres a physical form of every outkast album minus idlewild in my crib, thank you very much. i dont skim thru music, nor do i comment on stuff that i havnt given a serious listen to. that must be your thing.

and that walk it out verse was hot garbage. i cant take anybody seriously that hypes that bullchit up.

Bruh don't explain to these ducks. 3 stacks been flowing his ass off. I can't even argue with these fukkers. Personally, if these rappers battled for real, I'd put my money on 3 stacks against the grain.

any real battle-ready emcee on or off-wax would destroy 3 stacks.

in fact, andre would tell you to put your money back in your pocket. dude even dropped the original "diss me and i wont respond" esque lines on their 1st or 2nd lp.

 

[Rakim Allah]

In 94 it was known that Dre was better than Big Boi. Dre had that effortless flow while Big Boi would sometimes stumble with the Talib like(lets fit a gang of words in bar) flow.

I thought Big Boi stepped up to Dre's level in 98 on the 3rd album but Dre just has that it factor when it comes to rhymin. It comes easy to him. Like he could do it in his sleep. Can't say the same for Big Boi.

 

[Bickin Back Being Bool]

I believe it was when Eminem named him in his Top 5...I just can't recall when. After that everybody and their mother wanted to namedrop him as one of the GOATs.

i might have to agree with this one... matter of fact, i've always liked andre, but his name is the one that stuck out the most for me.

 

[Rakim Allah]

I can tell most of you on here haven't heard or never really listened to Outkast debut. Def not when it came out. Dre was a complete beast on that album. Some of the best EMCEEin from member in a duo.

 

[Rakim Allah]

Nothing but honkeys and suburb nikkas in this thread obviously

Niccas fuc with Outkast in 94 heavy but some didn't keep up when the 2nd album came. A lot cacs jumped on board with Atliens. I remember going to their concert in 96 right near Howard University and it was nothing but Cacs. I was expecting to see more Howard people. Disappointing indeed.

 

[Rakim Allah]

It kind of started with the Source nominating him for lyricist of the year at the 1999 Source Awards. So you could say, it started with Aquemini, which was their biggest album at the time. Then it ballooned once he changed his name from Dre to Andre 3000. From there it slowly escalated to him being considered a GOAT contender with:

- Stankonia launching OutKast into super-stardom

- Eminem listing him as one of the best

-Andre withdrawing from rap in favor of singing to express himself. This made a lot of people appreciate the rapping more

- "Mighty O" coming out of nowhere and Andre pretty much saying he was "king"

- The plethora of features that followed "Mighty O"

Kast fans already appreciated the work. He was already some people's favorite, but it was more so understated then. Personally, Kast's song "Everlasting" did it for me. I don't know why, but his verse just stood out There was also "In Due Time". So when Andre started getting hailed as one of the best, it wasn't surprising. The only thing surprising is that Big Boi isn't held in high regard being he was the more popular member.

I agree with most of what you're saying except for Big Boi being more popular than Dre. Dre was more popular until the South starting blowing up. Dre stopped rappin and Big Boi was rappin with everybody. Smart move by Big Boi. At their peak Dre was the more popular member.

 

[Rakim Allah]

I had their debut the day it dropped. People always thought Andre was superior....hell, people thought that from "Player's Ball" alone.

Fred.

Seems like a lot cats in this thread were not listening either Hip Hop or Outkast in 94. That debut is still my FAV Outkast joint and one of my FAV albums period. Dre was pretty much perfect on that album.