When did Vince McMahon lose "touch" with fans to you?

[Notorious 1 E.Y.E.]

the cena mega super by any means push

 

[PlayerNinety_Nine]

I don't know if it was by design or luck, in the 80's and 90's he was surrounded by people who were in tune with aspects of pop culture. I feel like he lost touch with the fans when he stopped paying attention to it.

I've made this point in other threads - Back in the day - they had champions that were reflective of the time. Hogan/ Warrior were the parallel to the larger than life coked up 80's. Bret, Shawn and Austin were the Generation X champions, Rock was the 'late 90's rise of mainstream hip-hop' champ.

You could throw Cena into this argument as well, as his rise was around the same time that Eminem was putting up numbers.

Maybe JBL's 'George W. Bush' era racist Republican a$$hole champ too.

It feels like they lost interest with trying to keep up with the outside world around this time.

They haven't really built anyone in that mould since. Punk was a missed opportunity as the rep for the millennials standing up against Baby Boomer Vince.

Bryan had enough juice with the fans to bring that wave back, if he hadn't gone down so soon into his title run - we might have got something out of them.

I have no idea how they could apply this to Roman. Vince wants him to be 'The Guy', but the character doesn't really relate to anything outside the WWE bubble.

 

[puppetmaster]

The moment he live streamed himself from the set of Nitro.


He lost that competitive hunger/angst that helped him raid and take down the territories on a one man mission

 

[NYChase718]

Probably wit the du rag...ecw era... Fighting hbk and god... 2005 or 2006...he officially lost it. Never came back

 

[John Reena]

Never.

Vince da GOAT.

 

[The Intergalactic Koala]

 

[Hey_zeus]

When Rikishi was pushed as a credible heel. I knew the party was over

 

[Sghost597]

Doing Triple H vs. Randy Orton as a Mania Main Event and it not being a street fight...

 

[Berniewood Hogan]

I have no idea how they could apply this to Roman. Vince wants him to be 'The Guy', but the character doesn't really relate to anything outside the WWE bubble.

Is the Roman Reigns we see on TV his real personality turned up to 11?


Because if so, dude's personality is

 

[Jmare007]

When Triple H became his n°1 guy.

 

[jackswstd]

Knew someone would say Roman Vince lost it when WCW and ECW folded, that's the only correct answer. No competition makes you complacent.

 

[PlayerNinety_Nine]

Is the Roman Reigns we see on TV his real personality turned up to 11?


Because if so, dude's personality is

The writing has to carry some of the blame for that. If Vince insists on the talent saying everything he writes verbatim he has to come up with some better shyt.

He didn't come up with 'Austin 3:16' or The Rock referring to himself in the third person. Why would he think that he can just reel off these 'once in a generation' catch-phrases now that he's in his 70's?

If Roman had better dialogue and some sort of character development, he would have had at least some sort of chance of being the face of the company that Vince envisions in his daydreams.

The micro-management from the office, has done him no favours at all, though.

 

[okgoodnotgreat]

Knew someone would say Roman Vince lost it when WCW and ECW folded, that's the only correct answer. No competition makes you complacent.

This.

 

[g-ice]

Easily Invasion imo

He wasted some big time players from WCW because he was being petty. shyt was

That DDP shyt was unforgivable!

 

[dh86]

The moment he live streamed himself from the set of Nitro.


He lost that competitive hunger/angst that helped him raid and take down the territories on a one man mission

He thinks he's competing without Disney, Fox & Universal, while only understanding wrestling. Kinda like how Vince viewed he and Ted Turner as peers, while Ted saw him at Bischoff level.