When did you become aware of "race"

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Oh and to answer the topic: pretty much from the beginning. I grew up around mostly jews/ white people, a lot of asians and a smattering of blacks so its hard to avoid. Plus, when your religion and language and cuisine are far deviated from the norm, you tend to notice these things early.
 

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To be honest, I grew up in a diverse city with a diverse group of friends, race didn't matter all that much to us. I guess as kids, we didn't see what was out there. We were certainly aware, and I was given speeches as a kid about understanding that I'd have to be undeniably better to be seen as the same but it wasn't immediate to me. No one ever had the gall to directly say something racist to me to my face, there were certain actions sure, but even my friends who were of other races told them that they were ignorant. I remember a game like SOCOM US Navy Seals being the first time I heard someone use the n-word in a derogatory fashion in real life. It just didn't happen, and maybe we were fortunate.

I'd say the internet makes me think more about race or religion or any of those things than I do normally. That's not to say we didn't know racist people, we had friends whose parents didn't like black people (grandparents especially), but we always chalked it up to an older era. I'd seen enough to know my friends didn't think that way, and to this day, a lot of those people would ride for me before my black friends would. Though not as egregious, my older relatives had habits like calling every Asian person Chinese anyhow so I couldn't exactly be to upset by a little ignorance. We were special.

It wasn't until college that I found out how rare my experience was, and that most people lived self-segregated. Class, race, religion, none of that stuff had ever mattered to us. It's why when I see any sort of generalization in here I :smh: because I know that's not how real life is and we've all branched out to other parts of the country and the world and found out that we weren't all that unique. People have more in common than was separates them if you give them a chance. I think I got a bit off-topic there.

But to answer the question when it really hit me what being black in america meant: It was during the uproar of Cornel Young Jr. being shot and knowing his little sister. If anyone remembers that case.
was it..."shocking" or at all damaging to go through life one way then all of a sudden really see the world for what it is at all? Do you think you would have been better off knowing younger or holding on to that youthful innocence as long as you did?
 

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You might be down on them doing MMA but the actual stats on CTE and brain damage for the sport are much lower than boxing or football for example, you can go check it out yourself. The grappling and general ruleset negate a lot of the damage that people would expect.

The one thing i'm meh on MMA for kids about is the image of the sport. :beli: not exactly role models everywhere.
yeah there's a reason they don't box, you can only get hit in the head so many times before it takes it's toll, but still i'd like them to learn how NOT to get hit in the head...which i realy don't even know why, we live in a good neighborhood, nothing like where I grew up where if you didn't knwo how to box you WERE going to get hit in the head eventually....I'd like them to do MMA, to quote the venerable Bernie Mac "these kids soft" though. I think it's just my perception though, went on a field trip with my oldest about 2 weeks ago and in comparison to the sampling of kids he's a got damn animal...


Oh and to answer the topic: pretty much from the beginning. I grew up around mostly jews/ white people, a lot of asians and a smattering of blacks so its hard to avoid. Plus, when your religion and language and cuisine are far deviated from the norm, you tend to notice these things early.
I grew up in a predominately black/brown area, white kids where the rarity. And the ones I did have exposure to were all nerds. :manny: I have a reverse racism experience in that until I was about 14 i though being white was a strike against you, hence the "stop acting like a white boy"....
 

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As long as I remember.

It really dawned on me when I realized how weak and submissive other races were.

It's important your sons know the importance of their race and where they are from. Who they are, and how they are/can be perceived.



As far as tennis goes I don't see the issue. It might not be what you want, but it's what he wants. At the end of the day that's what should matter, right? It's not like it's a fakkit sport like Brazilian Jiu Jitsu.


Growing up I sailed, played tennis, golf, hockey, soccer, water skied, mountain biked, rock climbing, hiking, and down hill skied. I really hit the slopes, still do.

As I got older I used women for sport and collected European cars, and houses.


Alpha bro, Alpha
 
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To be honest, I grew up in a diverse city with a diverse group of friends, race didn't matter all that much to us. I guess as kids, we didn't see what was out there. We were certainly aware, and I was given speeches as a kid about understanding that I'd have to be undeniably better to be seen as the same but it wasn't immediate to me. No one ever had the gall to directly say something racist to me to my face, there were certain actions sure, but even my friends who were of other races told them that they were ignorant. I remember a game like SOCOM US Navy Seals being the first time I heard someone use the n-word in a derogatory fashion in real life. It just didn't happen, and maybe we were fortunate.

I'd say the internet makes me think more about race or religion or any of those things than I do normally. That's not to say we didn't know racist people, we had friends whose parents didn't like black people (grandparents especially), but we always chalked it up to an older era. I'd seen enough to know my friends didn't think that way, and to this day, a lot of those people would ride for me before my black friends would. Though not as egregious, my older relatives had habits like calling every Asian person Chinese anyhow so I couldn't exactly be to upset by a little ignorance. We were special.

It wasn't until college that I found out how rare my experience was, and that most people lived self-segregated. Class, race, religion, none of that stuff had ever mattered to us. It's why when I see any sort of generalization in here I :smh: because I know that's not how real life is and we've all branched out to other parts of the country and the world and found out that we weren't all that unique. People have more in common than was separates them if you give them a chance. I think I got a bit off-topic there.

But to answer the question when it really hit me what being black in america meant: It was during the uproar of Cornel Young Jr. being shot and knowing his little sister. If anyone remembers that case.


Can really relate to the bolded. Honestly it wasn't till I got on SOHH when I was 16 that over the years I started noticing how ethnicities get shyt on frequently in most things or how people will shuck it up for whites. Sometimes I'll notice something and wonder if it was actually racist or is it just my messed up mentality seeing something that isn't there.
 

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I just started playing tennis actually
 

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I was listening to Joe ROgan podcast #344 and he said he never knew what the N word mean until he was like 10 or 11. Yesterday I told my son to stop acting like a white boy :manny: not my best "daddy moment", but he tells me, "what do you mean" i said NVM.

Question:
is it a good thing for kids NOT to learn about things like this that they will inevitably run into? Should you "keep the lie alive" as long as possible?


I see it as a good thing that my kids haven't been exposed to that yet and are blissfully unaware, thinking back i remember being aware of this stuff AT LEAST by 8 years old.

THoughts?
I was in 3rd grade, this girl told me she was Haitian. Thought she was talmbout Hades and did understand how that didnt make her Black. I was at an all black school at the time too.
 

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was it..."shocking" or at all damaging to go through life one way then all of a sudden really see the world for what it is at all? Do you think you would have been better off knowing younger or holding on to that youthful innocence as long as you did?

It wasn't really life-changing. Just made things real. I mean, before I knew any sociology showing that people of color and women are paid less than their white male contemporaries for doing the same jobs, my father and older relatives had always schooled me to the fact that society was going to be harsher on me. My father's answer was always just to be undeniable. Be so undeniably better that it became a loss not have me. He made it simple, "just know, if your friend Chris (white) gets a B, you better get an A." He explained it like that. But what he was really preparing me for was the world after school. So it was never really a rude awakening like what happened to Carleton in the Fresh Prince or anything. We were city kids, we had played on football teams and dominated before only for parents of other kids to say, "yeah they're good, but I wonder what their grades are like."

I think someone's background, race and everything else should be built up throughout their life. Maybe you address it as teachable moments arise. I don't really know how my parents did it.
 

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I guess i got to school my young brothers on the race thing, surprisingly they dont think about it, one of my bros thought the other was racist cause he called a white guy "nikka" a game character that is.

when i was young i didnt think much about race, i was kool with the white boys but i noticed they had a better up bringing than me, better toys and stuff so i would plot agaisnt them and took what i needed. when i was 14 i kept calling the people around me nikkas and one of them who was half black half Chinese actually schooled me on where the N word really comes from and i was blown away, i stopped saying it and done my own research to find out more and kind of became angry towards white people for a little bit, i try not to say the n word sometimes as much as i can, i dont call random people it tho only just my close peoples when we have funny moments.
 

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was it..."shocking" or at all damaging to go through life one way then all of a sudden really see the world for what it is at all? Do you think you would have been better off knowing younger or holding on to that youthful innocence as long as you did?

I went through a pretty drastic change , I grew up in the suburbs, big house multi car garage, my HS only had like 7 black kids. I used to go into "the hood" all the time though to chill with friends/buy weed so it wasn't rly an alien experience per se. I sort of figured out the difference on my own b/c I had friends in both places, and I could just observe how whites were acting around other races. I've posted about it before, I can tell you all about how white ppl act confidentially when just around whites.

then I went to college and moved into the hood. Live/lived in a trap house, ppl selling drugs all over, someone got murdered in the street at a party two houses down from my current place while I was on my back step smoking a cig, condemned houses and armed robberies next door, putting water in cereal b/c I dont have $ to get milk, living with roaches and rats, non-functioning heat, etc. The previous tenants of my new place I move into end of May were evicted/arrested for selling out of the place too.

:merchant:

My parents both grew up dirt poor, both are veterans, mom got kicked out the house at 17 by her step mother and my dad had to work starting at like age 11, so I didn't really get pampered.
 
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