When God Sends Your White Daughter a Black Husband

[ReturnOfJudah]

So what do you make of God promising Jeremiah that there's gonna be a "new" covenant not like those?

Lets read it and find out

Jeremiah Chapter 31

33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the Lord, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.


34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the Lord: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.

^^^^ Just imagine the programmer installment software into the system that would make it glitch free. Thats what Jesus is going to do for the 12 tribes that kept the commandments.

35 Thus saith the Lord, which giveth the sun for a light by day, and the ordinances of the moon and of the stars for a light by night, which divideth the sea when the waves thereof roar; The Lord of hosts is his name:

36 If those ordinances depart from before me, saith the Lord, then the seed of Israel also shall cease from being a nation before me for ever.

^^^ proof there is no spiritual israel. The word seed = whoever is from the male lineage of Israel'

37 Thus saith the Lord; If heaven above can be measured, and the foundations of the earth searched out beneath, I will also cast off all the seed of Israel for all that they have done, saith the Lord.

^^^ proof there is no spiritual israel. The word seed = whoever is from the male lineage of Israel. You can't measure the universe or the bottom of the ocean's floor/the core of earth

38 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that the city shall be built to theLord from the tower of Hananeel unto the gate of the corner.

39 And the measuring line shall yet go forth over against it upon the hill Gareb, and shall compass about to Goath.

40 And the whole valley of the dead bodies, and of the ashes, and all the fields unto the brook of Kidron, unto the corner of the horse gate toward the east, shall be holy unto the Lord; it shall not be plucked up, nor thrown down any more for ever.


The heathen nations will be taken in chains and forced into slavery

Revelation chapter 13:10

He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.

Isaiah Chapter 14

For the LORD will have mercy on Jacob, and will yet choose Israel, and set them in their own land: and the strangers shall be joined with them, and they shall cleave to the house of Jacob.

And the people shall take them, and bring them to their place: and the house of Israel shall possess them in the land of the LORD for servants and handmaids: and they shall take them captives, whose captives they were; and they shall rule over their oppressors.

3And it shall come to pass in the day that the LORD shall give thee rest from thy sorrow, and from thy fear, and from the hard bondage wherein thou wast made to serve,

 

[Phitz]

To be fair, the writer's is penning from a Christian perspective, which transcends any human division including race. As Paul wrote in his letter to the Romans, God doesnt show favoritism. Peter expressed the same after preaching to non-Jews which was unprecedented at the time, or at least to him which inspired him to express the need for the lack of impartiality. Other than marrying a non-believer, one cant look poorly at Christians who live life beyond race. In their world view, this life and the divisions part of life, are trivial in the grand scheme. Cant knock that. MLK might as well have been a buck, and considering men like him were progressive, I doubt he would have tripped off that article.

Besides whatever. There aint points gained in the grand scheme for wifin outside your own. I dont know if its for me but I cant knock the next breh for doing the IR thing.

As staunch as I am I tend to agree with you. Not something I'd want to do but from this perspective I refuse to address it as a self hate issue. What God put together let no man separate. That said MOST of the time spiritual people(muslims and christians) tend to marry WITHIN their race more than non believers. Food for thought.

 

[Taadow]

Lets read it and find out

Jeremiah Chapter 31

33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the Lord, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.


34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the Lord: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.

^^^^ Just imagine the programmer installment software into the system that would make it glitch free. Thats what Jesus is going to do for the 12 tribes that kept the commandments.

But the 12 tribes didn't keep the commandments...which is what God himself said to Jeremiah in the verses I gave.

You saying God lied to Jeremiah?

And if what you're saying is correct here, that would be God taking the "glitches out" and not a "new covenant".
Jeremiah says there would be (not "could be") a "new covenant".

...and i'm glad you brought verse 34 up, in terms of "neighbors". Do you remember who Jesus said is our neighbor?

 

[ReturnOfJudah]

But the 12 tribes didn't keep the commandments...which is what God himself said to Jeremiah in the verses I gave.

You saying God lied to Jeremiah?

The Northern Kingdom didn't keep the commandments during the time of Christ.. Thats why they were scattered abroad and Benjamin, Judah, and levy wasn't scattered when Christ was on the scene. After 70 ad aka when the Romans invaded Jerusalem the Southern tribes ran into Africa and the ones that decided to stay were hellenized and scattered abroad. So eventually all 12 tribes were captured and hellenized.

And if what you're saying is correct here, that would be God taking the "glitches out" and not a "new covenant".
Jeremiah says there would be (not "could be") a "new covenant".

Christ will take the glitches out

1 Corinthians Chapter 15

51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 52 in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. 54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory. 55 O death, where isthy sting? O grave, where is thy victory? 56 The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law. 57 But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.

...and i'm glad you brought verse 34 up, in terms of "neighbors". Do you remember who Jesus said is our neighbor?

Yes the Israelite are the neighbors. One Israelite wont have to teach another to obey GOD's laws when Christ returns. They will be changed into an incorruptible mind & body that won't be able to sin even if they tried.

Hebrews chapter 8

8 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:

9 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord.

10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:

11 And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.

 

[Taadow]

The Northern Kingdom didn't keep the commandments during the time of Christ.. Thats why they were scattered abroad and Benjamin, Judah, and levy wasn't scattered when Christ was on the scene. After 70 ad aka when the Romans invaded Jerusalem the Southern tribes ran into Africa and the ones that decided to stay were hellenized and scattered abroad. So eventually all 12 tribes were captured and hellenized.

Christ will take the glitches out

1 Corinthians Chapter 15

51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 52 in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. 54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory. 55 O death, where isthy sting? O grave, where is thy victory? 56 The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law. 57 But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.

So you think the Corinthian congregation Paul was writing to was only made up of natural Hebrews?

That's what you think?

Yes the Israelite are the neighbors.

Do you remember what Jesus said to the hebrew man who asked "who is my neighbor"?

 

[ReturnOfJudah]

So you think the Corinthian congregation Paul was writing to was only made up of natural Hebrews?

That's what you think?

I've already provided multiple verses giving you a clear understanding.

Acts 15:23
And they wrote letters by them after this manner; The apostles and elders and brethren send greeting unto the brethren which are of the Gentiles in Antioch and Syria and Cilicia:

John Chapter 7
34Ye shall seek me (Jesus), and shall not find me: and where I am, thither ye cannot come.
35Then said the Jews among themselves, Whither will he go, that we shall not find him? will he go unto the dispersed among the Gentiles, and teach the Gentiles? 36 What manner of saying is this that he said, Ye shall seek me, and shall not find me: and where I am, thither ye cannot come?


James 1:1 James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting.


Mathew Chapter 15
22 And, behold, a woman of Canaan came out of the same coasts, and cried unto him, saying, Have mercy on me, O Lord, thou son of David; my daughter is grievously vexed with a devil.

23 But he answered her not a word. And his disciples came and besought him, saying, Send her away; for she crieth after us.

24 But he (Jesus) answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

Do you remember what Jesus said to the hebrew man who asked "who is my neighbor"?

31 There came then his brethren and his mother, and, standing without, sent unto him, calling him.

32 And the multitude sat about him, and they said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren without seek for thee.

33 And he answered them, saying, Who is my mother, or my brethren?

34 And he looked round about on them which sat about him, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren!

35 For whosoever shall do the will of God, the same is my brother, and my sister, and mother.

(Jesus was talking to a room full of Israelites. So you can't lie and say the "whosoever means the other nations")


Isaiah Chapter 45:17
But Israel shall be saved in the LORD with an everlasting salvation: ye shall not be ashamed nor confounded world without end.

John 3:16Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

16 For God so loved the world (scripture above explains the world of Israel), that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

 

[Taadow]

I've already provided multiple verses giving you a clear understanding.

Acts 15:23
And they wrote letters by them after this manner; The apostles and elders and brethren send greeting unto the brethren which are of the Gentiles in Antioch and Syria and Cilicia:

John Chapter 7
34Ye shall seek me (Jesus), and shall not find me: and where I am, thither ye cannot come.
35Then said the Jews among themselves, Whither will he go, that we shall not find him? will he go unto the dispersed among the Gentiles, and teach the Gentiles? 36 What manner of saying is this that he said, Ye shall seek me, and shall not find me: and where I am, thither ye cannot come?

So wait a minute...how you gonna say the ones he wishes are "the Gentiles"...and then say here such ones are "dispersed amont the Gentiles"?

Which is it?

Mathew Chapter 15
22 And, behold, a woman of Canaan came out of the same coasts, and cried unto him, saying, Have mercy on me, O Lord, thou son of David; my daughter is grievously vexed with a devil.

23 But he answered her not a word. And his disciples came and besought him, saying, Send her away; for she crieth after us.

24 But he (Jesus) answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

...read the whole thing. In verse 28 he does exactly what they woman asked because of her faith.

So you don't think Jesus saw the same faith amongst other non-Jews?

You don't remember him talking to the Samaritan woman, either...who is the first person he told directly he was the Messiah?

31 There came then his brethren and his mother, and, standing without, sent unto him, calling him.

32 And the multitude sat about him, and they said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren without seek for thee.

33 And he answered them, saying, Who is my mother, or my brethren?

34 And he looked round about on them which sat about him, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren!

35 For whosoever shall do the will of God, the same is my brother, and my sister, and mother.

(Jesus was talking to a room full of Israelites. So you can't lie and say the "whosoever means the other nations")

"Whosoever" means "everybody who does" something. So that includes people of the nations.

You can see that in the parable of the Neighborly Samaritan in Luke 10. Two Hebrews pass up their fellow
Hebrew, while the foreign man helps him. Jesus says the foreign man in the real neighbor, and tells the man
who asked to be the same way.

John 3:16Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

16 For God so loved the world (scripture above explains the world of Israel), that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

No - look at the scripture above that:

Verse 15 right before it say "everyone" and verse 16 which you cite say "whosover" believeth.
So not just natural Israel.

 

[ReturnOfJudah]

So wait a minute...how you gonna say the ones he wishes are "the Gentiles"...and then say here such ones are "dispersed amont the Gentiles"?

Which is it?




...read the whole thing. In verse 28 he does exactly what they woman asked because of her faith.

So you don't think Jesus saw the same faith amongst other non-Jews?

You don't remember him talking to the Samaritan woman, either...who is the first person he told directly he was the Messiah?



"Whosoever" means "everybody who does" something. So that includes people of the nations.

You can see that in the parable of the Neighborly Samaritan in Luke 10. Two Hebrews pass up their fellow
Hebrew, while the foreign man helps him. Jesus says the foreign man in the real neighbor, and tells the man
who asked to be the same way.



No - look at the scripture above that:

Verse 15 right before it say "everyone" and verse 16 which you cite say "whosover" believeth.
So not just natural Israel.

Because the Israelites at that time were called Gentiles. That's why they asked are they going to teach the "Gentiles (n kingdom Israelites ) that were dispursed among the Gentiles (nations). If you read it in Hebrew or have strong's concord and you will see the word gentile has different meaning in Hebrew. Whosoever doesn't mean the heathens. He was talking to Israelites about Israelites. If I'm at a family reunion and I ask "whoever want a plate come get one", I don't expect a multiple of races to pop up out of nowhere and say "well you said we can have a plate". The people I'm talking to know who in the hell is the whoever.

#2 The Samaritan was an Israelite from the northern kingdom. Samaria was the Capitol of the northern kingdom. The people that didn't want to help was from the Southern tribe aka the priest, levite etc

 

[Taadow]

Because the Israelites at that time were called Gentiles.

Boy, gone.

 

[ReturnOfJudah]

No - look at the scripture above that:

Verse 15 right before it say "everyone" and verse 16 which you cite say "whosover" believeth.
So not just natural Israel.

Here is the proof that the whosoever is talking about Israel

No wonder you dont understand John 3:16, because you dont know what the hell 14 & 15 means.

John 3:14-15King James Version (KJV)
14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:

15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.




Numbers Chapter 21
And the people spake against God, and against Moses, Wherefore have ye brought us up out of Egypt to die in the wilderness? forthere is no bread, neither is there any water; and our soul loatheth this light bread.

6And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.

7Therefore the people came to Moses, and said, We have sinned, for we have spoken against the LORD, and against thee; pray unto the LORD, that he take away the serpents from us (Israel). And Moses prayed for the people.

8And the LORD said unto Moses, Make thee a fiery serpent, and set it upon a pole: and it shall come to pass, that every one that is bitten, when he looketh upon it, shall live.

9And Moses made a serpent of brass, and put it upon a pole, and it came to pass, that if a serpent had bitten any man, when he beheld the serpent of brass, he lived.

10And the children of Israel set forward, and pitched in Oboth.


Now since you know it all, where does is say the other nations was getting bit by serpents and they were saved from the serpents? Because John's verse clearly said the same thing will happen when Christ returns. Every verse you posted has been misquoted and i provide multiple verses proving you dont know what the hell you are talking about

Boy, gone.

If you click on the word Gentile it brings up the term Hellen in Greek. I dont expect you to understand because you got in your mind that the CACs are the Jews & Gentiles

Hellenistic Judaism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The Hebrews were Jewish Christians who spoke almost exclusively Aramaic, and the Hellenists were also Jewish Christians whose mother tongue was Greek. They were Greek-speaking Jews of the Diaspora, who returned to settle in Jerusalem.

 

[Taadow]

If you click on the word Gentile it brings up the term Hellen in Greek. I dont expect you to understand because you got in your mind that the CACs are the Jews & Gentiles

No I don't - you don't know what I have in my mind.

Hellenistic Judaism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Hebrews were Jewish Christians who spoke almost exclusively Aramaic, and the Hellenists were also Jewish Christians whose mother tongue was Greek. They were Greek-speaking Jews of the Diaspora, who returned to settle in Jerusalem.

Gentile - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Gentile (from Latin gentilis, by the French gentil, feminine: gentille, meaning of or belonging to a clan or tribe) is anethnonym that commonly means non-Jew.[1] Other groups that claim Israelite heritage sometimes use the term to describe outsiders.[2] See also "Goy".

The term is used by English translators for the Hebrew גוי (goy) and נכרי (nokhri) in the Hebrew Bible and the Greekword ἔθνη (éthnē) in the New Testament. The term "gentiles" is derived from Latin, used for contextual translation, and not an original Hebrew or Greek word from the Bible. The original words goy and ethnos refer to "peoples" or "nations" and is applied to both Israelites and non-Israelites in the Bible.[3] However, in most biblical uses, it denotes nations that are politically distinct from Israel. Since most of the nations at the time of the Bible were "heathens", goy or gentile became synonymous with heathen, although their literal translation is distinct. The term gentile thus became identical to the later term Ummot ha-olam (nations of the world). Latin and later English translators selectively used the term "gentiles" when the context for the base term "peoples" or "nations" referred to non-Israelite peoples or nations in English translations of the Bible.

 

[ReturnOfJudah]

I already explained the different meaning of gentile. And the link you provided said "commonly means" which proves my point that gentle has more than one meaning.

I copied this from your own post
The original words goy and ethnos refer to "peoples" or "nations" and is applied to both Israelites and non-Israelites in the Bible

You still didn't explain John 3:14-15 since you claim Jesus is referring to non Israelites. The precept is Numbers Chapter 21. Now bust a move and quit running. Explain it. If this thread has a scoreboard you would be down 50-0 in the 2nd qtr lol. You been wrong each and every time and you haven't applied one precept from the OT to prove what is ment in the NT.


Sorry bro ... No matter how hard you try CACs and any other heathen nations will not be apart of the kingdom of Heaven

 

[HoldThisL]

Dam I felt exhausted reading just the first paragraph. Shyt was a struggle

 

[ReturnOfJudah]

"Whosoever" means "everybody who does" something. So that includes people of the nations.

Verse 15 right before it say "everyone" and verse 16 which you cite say "whosover" believeth.
So not just natural Israel.

Acts Chapter 2:21-34
21 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever* shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.
22 Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders andsigns, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know:

 

[Taadow]

Acts Chapter 2:21-34
21 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever* shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.
22 Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders andsigns, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know:

Acts: 10:34 - 46 (at the home of Cornelius, who is an Italian man - not a Jew)

At this Peter opened his mouth and said: “For a certainty I perceive that God is not partial, but in every nation the man that fears him and works righteousness is acceptable to him. He sent out the word to the sons of Israel to declare to them the good news of peace through Jesus Christ: this One is Lord of all [others]. YOU know the subject that was talked about throughout the whole of Ju·de′a, starting from Gal′i·lee after the baptism that John preached, namely, Jesus who was from Naz′a·reth, how God anointed him with holy spirit and power, and he went through the land doing good and healing all those oppressed by the Devil; because God was with him. And we are witnesses of all the things he did both in the country of the Jews and in Jerusalem; but they also did away with him by hanging him on a stake. God raised this One up on the third day and granted him to become manifest, not to all the people, but to witnesses appointed beforehand by God, to us, who ate and drank with him after his rising from the dead. Also, he ordered us to preach to the people and to give a thorough witness that this is the One decreed by God to be judge of the living and the dead. To him all the prophets bear witness, that everyone putting faith in him gets forgiveness of sins through his name.”

While Peter was yet speaking about these matters the holy spirit fell upon all those hearing the word. And the faithful ones that had come with Peter who were of those circumcised were amazed, because the free gift of the holy spirit was being poured out also upon people of the nations. For they heard them speaking with tongues and magnifying God. Then Peter responded: “Can anyone forbid water so that these might not be baptized who have received the holy spirit even as we have?” With that he commanded them to be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ. Then they requested him to remain for some days.