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50 was dissing ja on mixtape and album cuts , and even the hail Mary beat. And still dropping radio friendly songs like 21 questions and candy drop. Clap back was good but ja was so busy dissing 50 he forgot to drop a radio single.
When Ja Rule dropped “Clap Back’, was it an uppercut to 50 Cent in real time???
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M4T
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First two are timeless, amusement park is a guilty pleasure, the rest of them jawns especially ayo technology
21 questions, a lil bit are definitely classic,I'd say put it one me and I'm real are also classic. Candy shop is like Flo Ridas whistle song , cheesy but very well produced. Mesmerize actually used the same sample as 50 on power of a dollar,Smiles and South star also used it. Also 50 is a much better singer than Ja, so anything he sings automatically sounds better.
In real time; Ja was done by the time this came out.
Actually Ja was done by the time that Grease remake video came out
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Whips-n-Chains
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Don’t let The internet fool you, NO ONE was bumpin ja or paying any attention to him in real time. 50 absolutely ended him.
That New York song was hot despite ja rule, not because of him.
That New York song was hot despite ja rule, not because of him.
Clapback came out Oct 2003 for an album that flopped
New York came out Oct 2004 for an album that went Gold...a whole year later in the 106 & Park era of music
Going Gold after a flop after being on top of charts was a death sentence plus 50 then dissed Jada, Fat Joe and Nas and the next year was G-Unit/D-Block
Again, I lived this shyt in real time
Even New York was about Jada's verse, the hook, the video and Fat Joe's verse
Ja was cold as ice before that song came out and guess what? That album had no other records.
NYChase718
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The last two posts should be the first two replies
I feel like a old nikka talking about the Bridge Wars and shytThe last two posts should be the first two replies
I agree with Ja that 50 is an a$$hole and was on him hard-- pause
But that was like a couple of months in the public
But, he's lying about be unbothered, ppl loved 50 because of how dope Get Rich was and his Eminem cosign
How to Rob came out in 1999
and Ja was hot as fish grease for the next two to three years Ja was a pop artist in the early 2000's..he wasn't doing that grimy, Murdergram shyt on TRL
He was far removed from Can I Get A? and being a Pac clone--and shout out to him for escaping that
In the Club helped 50 go diamond not dissing no Ja Rule who was more known for doing records with R&B's singers (Mary J, Bobby Brown, J-Lo, Ashanit) than being hard by 2002
Memorized (the Grease video) came out on The Last Temptation--Ja last too albums went triple platinum and this went single Platinum
Again, going Gold and single platinum after being at the TOP OF THE GAME was something different back in them days
People weren't tricked, ppl legit thought he sold out to get the #1 video on 106 & Park every week
He cooled off like every artist did and that RICO case didn't help
Bet Ja don't wanna talk about having to fake sign Nas to Murder Inc for some "clout"
That was a year after Ether and the whole game was like
Lemme find the video because I think Irv says it at the end
And the fake Pac feature I forgot Irv produced Super Ugly Switched sides Hol up, I knew I'd find a MTV Link
Irv Gotti Says Nas May Sign With Murder Inc.
The label boss said Monday that he is in talks with the Queensbridge rapper, which a source close to Nas confirmed. "I will definitely be affiliated and I'll definitely be a part of [his projects], me and my brother Ja Rule," Gotti said.
www.mtv.com
Nas was doing a victory lap after murking Jay-Z (I was a Jigga Warrior before their were HOVengers)
Murder Inc was deseperate after that case because they didn't have no music
That's prolly why Irv was so obessessed with Ashanti...she was the only one selling and Nas didn't sign
I telling ya'll, this was my prime teen years, I remember this shyt so vividly
Like hell it was. People talk about 50 ending Ja like it was just bc of bullying and fickle fans. Nah it was also because of his sound and his aggression.
Yea he ‘took Ja rule blueprint’ but do not forget this is still the mixtape era, and on them mixtapes and non-pop type songs 50 was something we never seen from an aggressive standpoint. As was the crew.
I say all that to say, that type of energy made Clap Back weak not only bc of timing or popularity, it was weak bc sonically it was soft. (It did get a ton of play tho). Like nobody believed it. You can hear that mocking on that 50 interlude.
Clap back we gon clap we gon back clap back.
It was corny. It was Ja’s version of ‘I got my mojo back baby oh behaaave’
Talmbout it was ”MEAN”
Lucky_Lefty
Dreams Are Colder Than Death...
I heard rappers use Clap Back and NY beats on their mixtapes than Ja did on the album.
Most of us lived it in real time. Kiss and Joe had better verses. But the hook and the production made that song. And the reason 50 dissed all those guys was because the song was a success, and he didn't like that.
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Sir Richard Spirit
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I remember everyone asking what took so long…People wanted Ja to do this at the time..
Ja watered the game down something serious wit his bs singles...I was glad he got knocked off...never hated on him just hated his music...plus I was a serious backpack underground trying to be a rapper nikka lol...so of course he was the enemy....play any one of them singles now and I bet I know all the words lol
BK The Great
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Em actually put his Loose Change diss on his mixtape