And I don't deny that. That was the same logic that made Jay-Z respond to Jim Jones.
But it was a full year AFTER Clap Back (which is the point of this thread).
The reaction to Clap Back was "
Ja back to be hard, now?"
When Ja Rule dropped “Clap Back’, was it an uppercut to 50 Cent in real time???
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But it was a full year AFTER Clap Back (which is the point of this thread).
The reaction to Clap Back was "
Ja back to be hard, now?"Was in high school at the time, and I fukked with some of Ja's 2003 releases, and I think I did like that album but no one was really fukking with it, like some of that grimy Murder Inc, there was a track that sampled Change Gon Come, had on some mix
Not like 50 and G-Unit, which was in every hotel party, every car, every party, radio stations, if you put this on, everyone would be like what is this?
The only place would be in my boys car when I would play Change Gon Come or the one with Hussein Fatal, but it didn't get much play at all, from my perspective.
The summer really was the end of the battle, it was over after Hail Mary, and a few other Shady/Interscope tracks.
The Hussein Fatal is kinda fire, can see why the 17 year old me loved this, but it's not great as a diss, it's really generic. Someone posted that interlude, which is what I remember, we gon clap back, we gon clap back, nah turn that shyt off
Not like 50 and G-Unit, which was in every hotel party, every car, every party, radio stations, if you put this on, everyone would be like what is this?
The only place would be in my boys car when I would play Change Gon Come or the one with Hussein Fatal, but it didn't get much play at all, from my perspective.
The summer really was the end of the battle, it was over after Hail Mary, and a few other Shady/Interscope tracks.
The Hussein Fatal is kinda fire, can see why the 17 year old me loved this, but it's not great as a diss, it's really generic. Someone posted that interlude, which is what I remember, we gon clap back, we gon clap back, nah turn that shyt off
Yea Rule dropped NY NY and Clap Back. He was putting out good music but the streets had already made their decision.no.. it didn't do anything to change the overall narrative but i fucced with it and bought the album too
i think Rule should have kept making the same music he was making and add a few hard records here and there.
That sing song bullish buried him along with 50, made him an easy target on mixtapes etc., he kind of killed himself and 50 was the nail in the coffin so there was literally no coming back from that. He did have Clap back and NY as said and I loved those records, to bad he did not keep making them all along to balance things out and things might not have turned out the way they did for him. I did not want to hear him sing though, dude does not have a singing voice and it did not fit IMO, pure garbage and I stopped listening pretty much when he started that.
If he made that same music he might have had a chance no doubt... His sing bullshyt though made him an easier target and 50 went in on that and it was a wrap pretty much sides a song here or there like you mentioned where he came back to where he should have been. By then though I think it was too late fans had made up their minds and dude was a punchline.
We were gullible kids man. Im willing to bet if it happened now, kids and younger generation would have still fcked with JA.
"It's against my religion to let a nikka survive. You know what I mean. It's in the laws of power, baby. You know what I mean? When u destroy, u destroy completely, bytch."
Even back then, Fif was about the Laws of Power
"Whoo Kid, turn this shyt off, man. What the fukk is goin on. Muthafukka ain't gon shyt, man."
I just randomly thought of this shyt the other day, finally remembered which mixtape it was from. This shyt is just as funny today as it was when it dropped. I swear 50 back then was fukking untouchable.We gon clap back, we gon clap back
Brehs, which mixtape was the "Hail Mary" diss officially released on?
Was in high school at the time and remember this era very vividly. The overall response was kind of “eh”. Like people appreciated Ja coming back hard but also the masses really saw him as this loverboy thug rapper and that had become his identity. Think this era-Drake with slightly more respect skill-wise but not a big enough core fan-base to see him through.
When the album dropped and it was one big response to Fifty with no real hit song to carry it, THATS what sank him.
It also didn’t help that 50 came through with the force of a supernova and was seen as newer, hotter, and more “authentic” while Ja was made to look like a…well a “wanksta” for lack of a better word.
Also around this time the feds started investigating Murda Inc so it was like they were fighting a war on all sides.
Hindsight is 20/20 but what Ja should have done was combine the best of Blood in My Eye with next year’s R.U.L.E. (Which is the album that had New York and that R.Kelly song) and he would have stood more of a fighting chance. He needed to prove he was a “real” MC but also still prove that 50 hadn’t knocked him off his game and he could still drop HIT records.
It probably wouldn’t have stopped everything coming to a screeching halt when the feds led Irv Gotti out in handcuffs and Def Jam turned it’s collective back on Murda Inc but it would have put Ja in a better position to come back as an artist like Ashanti did.
When the album dropped and it was one big response to Fifty with no real hit song to carry it, THATS what sank him.
It also didn’t help that 50 came through with the force of a supernova and was seen as newer, hotter, and more “authentic” while Ja was made to look like a…well a “wanksta” for lack of a better word.
Also around this time the feds started investigating Murda Inc so it was like they were fighting a war on all sides.
Hindsight is 20/20 but what Ja should have done was combine the best of Blood in My Eye with next year’s R.U.L.E. (Which is the album that had New York and that R.Kelly song) and he would have stood more of a fighting chance. He needed to prove he was a “real” MC but also still prove that 50 hadn’t knocked him off his game and he could still drop HIT records.
It probably wouldn’t have stopped everything coming to a screeching halt when the feds led Irv Gotti out in handcuffs and Def Jam turned it’s collective back on Murda Inc but it would have put Ja in a better position to come back as an artist like Ashanti did.
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my first thought when I heard this was 50 gonna hop on the beat and body that shyt lol I dont think he ever did though
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