when nikkas gone stop acting like Biggie was innocent?

[Zero]

not for @SunZoo..

Dudes died for essentially nothing and people have been arguing semantics for 20 YEARS

 

[LJLYDK!]

So how did Pac put Big on then or help him a hell of a lot as you said? No sarcasm either I’m being serious

Aight so you really don't think he helped him at all on any level? he was giving biggie shine on the mic when he was performing, he was passing shyt onto to him about the panthers & street shyt, knowledge, lessons, valuable shyt not to mention all the jewels & that shyt, come on man think a little, he passed alot of game onto biggie but the bigggie stans dont seem to want to acknowledge this its always nahhhh fukk pac he didnt teach or give biggie nuffin''

like i said you cant have a rational convo on here about any of this shyt without people getting all crazy about it.

its the same shyt with Flex fans

 

[Nomad1]

Facts plus tax

how is that facts? Who Shot Ya was released before Tupac "fukked" faith, dissed his kids, threatened his life, etc etc. Now if the former happened before the latter then i'd agree 100%, but in this case it isn't. And Biggie was tied to Pac's shooting (not saying he was involved) so this isn't just a rapper releasing a "kill a nikka" song.

Im literally witnessing revisionist history
10 years from now yall will be saying Malcolm X was a white man

 

[delnegro]

Now Pac put BIG on to street shyt? Look at them both at 17. Biggie was taking work outta town in his late teens hustling. Pac got his work taken from him because he wasn't a hustler.

 

[Nomad1]

Now Pac put BIG on to street shyt? Look at them both at 17. Biggie was taking work outta town in his late teens hustling. Pac got his work taken from him because he wasn't a hustler.

Biggie came up with R2D, and Biggie was a petty dealer, nothing more, nothing less.

 

[hustlemania]

im an illogical Pac stan yet i've repeatedly stated Biggie's was not at fault for siding with Badboy/NYC and not Pac
im illogical for saying Who Shot Ya was written before Tupac got shot in 94
im illogical for saying someone who was tied to another person's shooting and released a song that could (and has) be perceived as a diss
@hustlemania @Billy Ocean
when facts go out the window and nikka start to become emotional. It's not my fault I bring facts unlike most Pac fans/stans

"im illogical..

im illogical..

im illogical..

Hustle & Bllly..

fukk it.. i won.. "

 

[Zero]

these threads are hilarious, and low-key kinda sad..

alot of these cats seriously believe most the sh!t their saying, and it really dont even make sense.. acting like Pac had beef on lay-a-way for Henchman, is possibly one of the funniest things ive ever read..

"he was stacking his paper, and playing chess going after Big in the meantime to fukk up his money.. "

shout-out to Pac for showing such restraint to the dudes who actually had him shot up.. such a humanitarian..

Ayo :loldenzel2:

 

[Knicksman20]

Aight so you really don't think he helped him at all on any level? he was giving biggie shine on the mic when he was performing, he was passing shyt onto to him about the panthers & street shyt, knowledge, lessons, valuable shyt not to mention all the jewels & that shyt, come on man think a little, he passed alot of game onto biggie but the bigggie stans dont seem to want to acknowledge this its always nahhhh fukk pac he didnt teach or give biggie nuffin''

like i said you cant have a rational convo on here about any of this shyt without people getting all crazy about it.

its the same shyt with Flex fans

Did you remember what I first said fam? I said Pac looked out for him no doubt but saying he put him on was a reach. Pac let him perform at his shows & yes that’s looking out for him. Big’s talent got him that spot on Unsigned Hype in the Source bro not Pac. All the other things you mentioned are subjective, exaggerating & looking out for someone.

 

[Nomad1]

I already pointed out why its beyond rational to even speak to someone who thinks like you.. youre delusional, even in the face of facts.. most of shyt you spew, are ridiculous logical fallacies..

not to mention.. look at your avy, and the quote under it..

that in itself, should let anyone with common sense know you lack common sense when speaking about Pac..

So point out my fallacies, quote me being delusional. I find it funny you can easily do it to the other poster, and not me. That's because the other poster is wrong (Biggie came up with R2D) and im right.
And while you're at it, brush up on your definitions I don't want you misusing "moving goal-posts" again.

 

[hustlemania]

I always forget how incredible Pac stans are. Truly.

its truly some amazing sh!t to witness..

 

[delnegro]

Biggie came up with R2D, and Biggie was a petty dealer, nothing more, nothing less.

And Pac was a bum ass nikka with a perm that wore eyeliner and hand me downs from his white boy friend John in Bmore. All documented...

 

[Billy Ocean]

Biggie came up with R2D, and Biggie was a petty dealer, nothing more, nothing less.

Pac was a petty dealer himself and also showed that he wasn't a real street nikka cause he let too many nikkas into his circle. Main reason he kept fukking with Jack and Henchman even after dudes warned him not too fukk with them. Pac was a real nikka, and courageous, but he wasn't a street nikka...difference.

 

[hustlemania]

So point out my fallacies, quote me being delusional. I find it funny you can easily do it to the other poster, and not me. That's because the other poster is wrong (Biggie came up with R2D) and im right.
And while you're at it, brush up on your definitions I don't want you misusing "moving goal-posts" again.

In philosophy, the term formal fallacy is used for logical fallacies and defined formally as: a flaw in the structure of a deductive argument which renders the argument invalid.

When the song was written is irrelevant, the intentions of releasing the song around the time he was shot, is relevant. Am I typing in Arabic or something?

dont bother responding..

 

[Nomad1]

And Pac was a bum ass nikka with a perm that wore eyeliner and hand me downs from his white boy friend John in Bmore. All documented...

And still left classic music behind and bumbs like you talking about him 20 yrs after this death. I'd say being a perm that wore eyeliner helped out his legacy a lot, dont you think?

 

[Nomad1]

Pac was a petty dealer himself and also showed that he wasn't a real street nikka cause he let too many nikkas into his circle. Main reason he kept fukking with Jack and Henchman even after dudes warned him not too fukk with them. Pac was a real nikka, and courageous, but he wasn't a street nikka...difference.

ok? I didn't call Pac a street nikka, a thug lord, etc Biggie was a petty dealer turned rap star. Is that a bad thing to say?