when nikkas gone stop acting like Biggie was innocent?

[Dreamzeedream]

Bro this isn't wwe lmao
And how did he fukk up henchmen money?
The east west beef if anything brought more attention and more money to both sides if u wanna run with this dumb theory that bad boy was paying him bi-weekly or some shyt lmao

Also, pac had a shyt load of new jersey goons according to the outlaws. As well suge knight and a bunch of bloods. Henchmen was in la all the time, nothing happened. He even ran up on Pac and told him to stop snitching at some club, nothin happened. So stop

Reggie Wright said that story about Jimmy running up on pac in the club never happen.jimmy wasn't no regular street nikka. You gotta have money to go to war., you gotta have money to put on nikkas head,money for guns.. You get what I'm saying? And u guess pac felt like if exposed the henchmen was extorting nikkas that would hurt him some sort way.I agree with you tho. After pac signed to death row. He Had the muscle to actually take it to jimmy but he dint..... but like he said. "Don't think I forgot I just remember what you told me , don't go to war unless I got my money right.i got my money right now I want war". Pac died b4 anythin could happen

 

[Dreamzeedream]

Maybe in NY, but if We comparing armies Once Pac was on the row if it was War, he could have brought it to whoever......And thats without his ten million stans...I mean yayo slapped that nikka son and is still walking around, nikkas aint scared of him like that

He retaliated for his son getting slapped tho. I guess against all odds was pac way of telling jimmy he coming for him

 

[Benefited]

Maybe in NY, but if We comparing armies Once Pac was on the row if it was War, he could have brought it to whoever......And thats without his ten million stans...I mean yayo slapped that nikka son and is still walking around, nikkas aint scared of him like that

Some people are just not afraid of dying,when you look at their lives I think its safe to say,when you look at 50 and 2pac,they fit that description more than anybody in hiphops history,based on things they've done,and said,and who they've done and said it to. Theres some things you just don't do for "record sales" and for promotion. Beefing with guys like Henchmen/Preme,shooting at cops,beating up crips are some of those things.

Ironically as great of a person I think 2pac was historically,I would have told Hatian Jack and anybody else not to hang out with Pac too much,same as people told Pac about Hatian. It's dangerous to be around guys like 50 and Pac who don't care about losing their life,its easy to become a innocent bystander standing next to guys like them.

To think either was scared of Jimmy Henchmen is pretty laughable. With that said,I don't think Pac would have been ready for what he was getting himself into,as he still had the conscience of a black panther as he said in that Monster Kody phone call. He hesitated to kill another black person with guns on him,he would have had to do some bad things to survive a "war" that he was initiating with Jimmy Henchmen. 50 I'm pretty sure doesn't give a damn and is willing to do those type of things if pushed lol.

 

[seemorecizzy]

Maybe in NY, but if We comparing armies Once Pac was on the row if it was War, he could have brought it to whoever......And thats without his ten million stans...I mean yayo slapped that nikka son and is still walking around, nikkas aint scared of him like that

the guy who slapped his son is dead
yayo's grandma;s crib got shot up for him being there and instigating

 

[Harry B]

All you are doing is assuming shyt and then saying given that what I believe, he wasn't innocent.
Who said Big knew? Sneak dissing someone in hiphop equals calling for people to shoot up the place?


As far as Long Kiss Goodnight goes it was changed from a diss song to a regular track, 95% of the bars doesn't even make sense in the context of Pac.

Maybe in NY, but if We comparing armies Once Pac was on the row if it was War, he could have brought it to whoever......And thats without his ten million stans...I mean yayo slapped that nikka son and is still walking around, nikkas aint scared of him like that

The man that slapped Yayo's son got murked out and Yayos grand ma's house got filled with bullets

And he's not local, after he got in the music game that made him national.

He was found guilty by a federal jury in Brooklyn in 2013 of using his thriving record label as a front for a coast-to-coast cocaine ring.

 

[Renzo]

As usual bitter biggie fans talking dumb shyt. Biggie knew what happened. He never warned Pac. How he going warn somebody to not hang with someone when pac had already stopped fukking with them?? Pac assumed biggie knew because for one biggie was walked into the lounge spot with the nikka. Then biggie tried to warn him in a round about way, Pac ask what you mean? Biggie was like I'll get with you later and a few days later Pac gets shot. Of course Pac knew who set him up, his main issue with biggie was like yo you and stretch hanging with these nikkas..give me some Intel or something..like who in the studio knew what ..Then biggie went ghost on him and stopped fukking with him. That's when biggie became a target because he picked his side and in turn became they mouth piece, first dropping who shot ya then getting on the radio talking crazy about the dog pound. Biggie didn't want to do that shyt but he had no choice. Get down or lay down nikka. And let's be real..Pac and suge was on they ass. Jimmy puffy Harrell or jack wasn't moving around L.A. freely that time period except to they hotel or out to a function with mad security. A lot of bodies dropped behind that beef on a street level that will eventually come out. Pac and suge look like the instigators because because they were vocal but they also wanted to dead the beef too, but puffy and henchmen no showed, this was a real sit down that was put together by real street dudes.

 

[BO BARON]

Yall nikkas need to stop it. Why wasn't Pac so strategic, calculated and shrewd when he allowed Jimmy and Jack into his circle in the first place AFTER street dudes told him not to mess with them? Why wasn't Pac so strategic, calculated and shrewd before getting involved with Blood and Crip gang business? Pac showed a MILLION times throughout his short life that he was SUPER impetuous so why all of a sudden ya'll believe he became this strategic Svengali when dealing with Jimmy and Jack after the Quad incident? Ya'll dudes, man

You live & you learn

But remember what they told him you can't go to war without money so he obviously knew what he was dealing with with jimmy & jack

All he was talking about on killuminati was strategy & war

nikkas wild like pac at his age at the time rarely are fortunate enough to live to learn from their stupid mistakes

Big was just as reckless tho making a song about going back to cali after many felt he killed pac & then actually going there to promote the song & new album

 

[Billy Ocean]

You live & you learn

But remember what they told him you can't go to war without money so he obviously knew what he was dealing with with jimmy & jack

All he was talking about on killuminati was strategy & war

nikkas wild like pac at his age at the time rarely are fortunate enough to live to learn from their stupid mistakes

Big was just as reckless tho making a song about going back to cali after many felt he killed pac & then actually going there to promote the song & new album

Biggie definitely was wrong for being in Cali after Pac died (mainly because of Puff's directives according to Gene Deal) and spitting Long Kiss on live radio out there. No disputing that. But there's no way in the world anyone can tell me that Pac was some great strategian at that point, or any point, of his life when most every thing he did was spur of the moment. Shiiiit...the night he got clapped by Orlando he fukked up by:

1. Jumping on Orlando
2. Made himself SUPER CONSPICUOUS in the car with Suge after the beat down.

Right to the last seconds of his life he showed he wasn't calculated.

Don't try to insult people's intelligence by telling dudes he was being strategic with Jimmy and Jack. Don't care what he said in interviews and in his music...Pac was making moves with very little thought before acting.

 

[spliz]

Biggie definitely was wrong for being in Cali after Pac died (mainly because of Puff's directives according to Gene Deal) and spitting Long Kiss on live radio out there. No disputing that. But there's no way in the world anyone can tell me that Pac was some great strategian at that point, or any point, of his life when most every thing he did was spur of the moment. Shiiiit...the night he got clapped by Orlando he fukked up by:

1. Jumping on Orlando
2. Made himself SUPER CONSPICUOUS in the car with Suge after the beat down.

Right to the last seconds of his life he showed he wasn't calculated.

Don't try to insult people's intelligence by telling dudes he was being strategic with Jimmy and Jack. Don't care what he said in interviews and in his music...Pac was making moves with very little thought before acting.

To me it seems like he was TRYING to be more strategic whilst still having that reckless side and it ultimately fukked him over. He was a young nikka who aint had it all figured out yet. Also. Biggie wasnt just wrong for being in LA. He wasnt just wrong for dissin Pac on the radio. He was wrong for hanging wit the set that murdered Pac the whole time while out there. nikka came off like he was stuntin on LA wit the way he was carrying himself. So much so that a bunch of people was tryna warn him about the way they was carrying on out there. But nikkas try to gloss over these facts like it was just some small shyt. And on top of that even blame Pac for his death.

 

[Billy Ocean]

To me it seems like he was TRYING to be more strategic whilst still having that reckless side and it ultimately fukked him over. He was a young nikka who aint had it all figured out yet. Also. Biggie wasnt just wrong for being in LA. He wasnt just wrong for dissin Pac on the radio. He was wrong for hanging wit the set that murdered Pac the whole time while out there. nikka came off like he was stuntin on LA wit the way he was carrying himself. So much so that a bunch of people was tryna warn him about the way they was carrying on out there.

They both were young and made mistakes. People tend to forget how young these dudes were. They made mistakes...like most young nikkas do. I will say this: ALOT of the stuff they were doing at the end of their lives was influenced heavily by Suge and Puff.

My point is that I really don't want to hear anybody trying to tell me the reason Pac didn't go as hard at the nikkas who actually got him shot up and robbed than Biggie is because he was using strategy. Like what precedence he showed in his life that can back up that claim? It's silly.

 

[spliz]

They both were young and made mistakes. People tend to forget how young these dudes were. They made mistakes...like most young nikkas do. I will say this: ALOT of the stuff they were doing at the end of their lives was influenced heavily by Suge and Puff.

My point is that I really don't want to hear anybody trying to tell me the reason Pac didn't go as hard at the nikkas who actually got him shot up and robbed than Biggie is because he was using strategy. Like what precedence he showed in his life that can back up that claim? It's silly.

Well he has been callin the nikka out since the Vibe interview. Names got switched. And like I said before we still dont know what he said in the Angie interview that she wont release. shyt Hit Em Up released like 2-3 months prior to his death. And he called them out by name on Makaveli. People forget how short of a time span this whole shyt was. Pac was only on Death Row for months before he died. nikka was making mad moves behind the scenes that never came to fruition. Me personally? I dont think Pac wouldve lasted long regardless. I just dont like how shyt gets painted so one sided for all these years. Both them nikkas would prolly look back and think its stupid at the end of the day. The main nikka(Diddy) still out here shining which is crazy to me.

 

[Tony D'Amato]

Biggie was way too cocky. N1gga had the nerve to leave those subliminal disses at Pac in multiple songs including going back to cali after Pac died. He was basically asking to be killed

 

[Slam]

Whatever happened. Big got what was coming to his punk ass.

Kept his mouth shut until a nikka was gone to then start yapping his fat face.

Streets deemed him unworthy. Fat mouth sentenced him to death.

 

[Reggie]

He didn’t need to be humble. I have no idea why some say this. If someone attacked you publicly, fukked your wife & made it known to everyone in & outside of your circle, threatened you & your kids, & blamed you for something you had no part in I doubt you’d (or most others) would be on some humble shyt fam. Keep it a buck. I’m not saying piss on a man’s grave publicly like Big did but I’d probably not really comment on the issue because if he’d died I wouldn’t have cared

Humble as in not going on the radio freestyling and throwing shots at a man not even 6 months dead yet. He could have just said he didn't wish no ill will toward dude and RIP and kept it moving.

 

[spliz]

Humble as in not going on the radio freestyling and throwing shots at a man not even 6 months dead yet. He could have just said he didn't wish no ill will toward dude and RIP and kept it moving.

It wasnt just that he threw shots. It was the shots thrown. Like the nikka was damn near braggin that Pac got killed in the rhymes.