when nikkas gone stop acting like Biggie was innocent?

[hustlemania]

Honestly this thread is disgustin on both ends. Noone minus a select few people are on some logical shyt. U got nikkas on the Pac side giving him too much credit for certain shyt and u got nikkas on the Biggie side high fiving eachother completely ignoring the bullshyt he pulled in the beef as well. nikkas cant meet in the middle and say both these dudes were at fault for their own deaths and both made mistakes but nikkas would rather look at these REAL LIFE events like it was a movie.

pretty sure we all agree neither was innocent.. and, both really didnt like each other.. especially enough to have some sort of respect that people think is owed from one to another..

it was a crazy situation.. shouldnt have even went down like it did, but it unfortunately did..

end of the day.. both are legends in their own respect.. cant deny the impact they had..

 

[Wacky D]

theyre both at fault.

biggie got spanked for the first warning he gave pac, after pac opened his big mouth to hatian jack about it.
so of course biggie left him hanging the second time.

biggie handled the situation the wrong way after that, in so many ways tho. he prolly was a scared puppet in this whole situation tho. but yea, dude was no innocent puppy.

and then to top it off, he tap-danced on pac's grave after pac got killed. its hard to feel sorry for the guy at that point. you really just feel sorry for his family.

 

[HiphopRelated]

Why the fukk you wanting ME to explain how YOU heard a demo a year before it came out for?
Look its simple Pac was suppose to put out his album in 94. Biggie bit off of him & he scrapped it. whats to hard to understand man?

According to Tupac, although he never put out anything like RTD, before or after..

That was one of the biggest pieces of bs I heard going back 2 decades ago

 

[Bigsuk]

Maybe in NY, but if We comparing armies Once Pac was on the row if it was War, he could have brought it to whoever......And thats without his ten million stans...I mean yayo slapped that nikka son and is still walking around, nikkas aint scared of him like that

wasn’t yayo who actully slapped him it was the nikka who was with yayo .... u know the niggga that was put 6 foot under 2 weeks after he was released from prison ....jimmy proved his point he told nikkas that “ them g-unit nikkas would be carrying a coffin “ for slapping his son ... from everyone in newyork they all knew jimmy wasn’t to be played with dno where u getting your info from ...

 

[Bigsuk]

Bro this isn't wwe lmao
And how did he fukk up henchmen money?
The east west beef if anything brought more attention and more money to both sides if u wanna run with this dumb theory that bad boy was paying him bi-weekly or some shyt lmao

Also, pac had a shyt load of new jersey goons according to the outlaws. As well suge knight and a bunch of bloods. Henchmen was in la all the time, nothing happened. He even ran up on Pac and told him to stop snitching at some club, nothin happened. So stop

yeah i want to know if that really happened there isn’t many people to confirm wheather It happened or not ..... I know henchman said him and some rolling 60s were there at the house ov blues n told pac to stop yapping about biggie n puffy basically saying to his face “no one came there to kill you they came to disciple you” basically saying to his face he had him shot n wat you gona do about it ..... if that story turns out to be true it proves pac wasn’t gona do anything ....

 

[Bigsuk]

the guy who slapped his son is dead
yayo's grandma;s crib got shot up for him being there and instigating

yeah exactly ... I feeell yayo was deffo shook ov jimmy no matter how much he was fronting he wasn’t .... he was deffo sending yayo a message like “ you or your family can get touched “ I don’t think he was trying to kill him or his family it was just the point he could ..I dno why Any rap nikka thinks they can go against crime bosses in general it’s just stupid they never gona win ... the only way the rappers win or when the government puts these figures behind bars for life ...

 

[ucanthandlethetruth]

Nikka please. That nikka got you shot. Pac was all about this “he gonna do this and gonna do that” jimmy was in LA plenty of times. Why not run up on him? fukking bad boy money up by giving more attention to bad boy cause even after biggie, how many hits did puffy label put out?this is what I mean when I say young and dumb. You want beef go find Jimmy or the nikkas that shot you and kill, stop yapping about biggie, making videos/songs dissing him, trying to start problems with him when you know who shot you you idiot. Jimmy was probably laughing at Pac throughout that whole east vs west cause Pac knew better not to try that shyt to him before he get ass lit up again

So he financed Pac till start a dangerous war, make videos dissing nikkas that could easily turn into problems and stomp/beat nikkas up(which Pac admitted) but not revenge against the nikkas that actually shot him? Yea of course, suge wanted the record sales and money, no real beef with a nikka strong enough to knock that whole label down. My point exactly

nikkas just come up with the most outlandish elaborate

when it comes to explaining pac being scared to death of jimmy and why he never did shyt
making all these he went this way to go that way stories shyt is literally the longest running joke on here

 

[NoChillJones]

Pac was reckless. He was a loved spirit by pretty much everyone. But he spearheaded the beef to sell records. Suge and Puff did it for the same reasons. There was no more controversial artist then 2pac and no more controversial beef then the east coast west cost. Puff was smarter then Suge but only because Suge wanted loved being a thug and flaunted his gang affiliations to the mainstream........and Puff had enough sense to keep his dirt away from the mainstream.

 

[delnegro]

Had 2pac understood street dynamics, not been impulsive and barked on Jimmy like he was some rap groupie the quad shyt probably doesn't happen.

 

[Tony D'Amato]

Had 2pac understood street dynamics, not been impulsive and barked on Jimmy like he was some rap groupie the quad shyt probably doesn't happen.

He'd also still be alive. Shoulda just kept making his conscious music.

But why dont people bring up how much of a snake big was. All those subliminal disses after Pac died was disgusting

 

[richaveli83]

Don’t believe he was innocent but I do believe Pac Suge and diddy were the main instigators before him. I also believe his actions were usually in response to what Pac said/did. As far as the shooting, biggie was putting his life in danger just warning Pac the first time, then Pac went and shouted that shyt to moon which could easily put Henchmen on big quickly. I think he laid back from that whole situation until it was dragged in the media. The fact that snoop and some others on death row took biggies side in retrospect and criticize Pac for going overboard was telling.

This part isn't talked about enough. Looking back they really never had Pac's back. Daz was foul for leaking those unreleased tapes.

 

[Bigsuk]

This part isn't talked about enough. Looking back they really never had Pac's back. Daz was foul for leaking those unreleased tapes.

I never looked at snoop , daz and Kurupt as pacs close homies anyway they were label mates , were cool until the beef got out ov hand but they were never gona ride or die for pac like suge or the outlawz for example were

 

[spliz]

theyre both at fault.

biggie got spanked for the first warning he gave pac, after pac opened his big mouth to hatian jack about it.
so of course biggie left him hanging the second time.

biggie handled the situation the wrong way after that, in so many ways tho. he prolly was a scared puppet in this whole situation tho. but yea, dude was no innocent puppy.

and then to top it off, he tap-danced on pac's grave after pac got killed. its hard to feel sorry for the guy at that point. you really just feel sorry for his family.

I honestly dont believe that ever happened considering the fact that noone has ever said it but one person and Tyson said something to Pac about them nikkas too so why would Pac say somethin about Biggie and not Mike? Sounds like BS to me and it wasnt like the nikka Jimmy n them wasnt hangin around Bad Boy so of course a cocky young nikka like Pac gonna look at Biggie and think “why the fukk is it cool for u to be around these nikkas and not me?, imma see what it is for myself.. Especially wit a vague ass “be careful around those cats”. On top of the fact Pac wasnt even really fukkin wit Jimmy n them by the time of the so called “warning”. Pac wasnt even really mad at Biggie for what happened. He was mad at the way the nikka acted after the fact. Me personally? I woulda just wrote Biggie n them nikkas off after that and not associated wit the nikka no more. But on the other hand them nikkas tried to play Pac while he was locked up. Especially Diddy.

 

[laughslikebig]

As usual bitter biggie fans talking dumb shyt. Biggie knew what happened. He never warned Pac. How he going warn somebody to not hang with someone when pac had already stopped fukking with them?? Pac assumed biggie knew because for one biggie was walked into the lounge spot with the nikka. Then biggie tried to warn him in a round about way, Pac ask what you mean? Biggie was like I'll get with you later and a few days later Pac gets shot. Of course Pac knew who set him up, his main issue with biggie was like yo you and stretch hanging with these nikkas..give me some Intel or something..like who in the studio knew what ..Then biggie went ghost on him and stopped fukking with him. That's when biggie became a target because he picked his side and in turn became they mouth piece, first dropping who shot ya then getting on the radio talking crazy about the dog pound. Biggie didn't want to do that shyt but he had no choice. Get down or lay down nikka. And let's be real..Pac and suge was on they ass. Jimmy puffy Harrell or jack wasn't moving around L.A. freely that time period except to they hotel or out to a function with mad security. A lot of bodies dropped behind that beef on a street level that will eventually come out. Pac and suge look like the instigators because because they were vocal but they also wanted to dead the beef too, but puffy and henchmen no showed, this was a real sit down that was put together by real street dudes.

This dumb ass white logic. Site full of dweebs boy.

I honestly dont believe that ever happened considering the fact that noone has ever said it but one person and Tyson said something to Pac about them nikkas too so why would Pac say somethin about Biggie and not Mike? Sounds like BS to me and it wasnt like the nikka Jimmy n them wasnt hangin around Bad Boy so of course a cocky young nikka like Pac gonna look at Biggie and think “why the fukk is it cool for u to be around these nikkas and not me?, imma see what it is for myself.. Especially wit a vague ass “be careful around those cats”. Pac wasnt even really mad at Biggie for what happened. He was mad at the way the nikka acted after the fact. Me personally? I woulda just wrote Biggie n them nikkas off after that and not associated wit the nikka no more. But on the other hand them nikkas tried to play Pac while he was locked up. Especially Diddy.

Big was getting extorted, just like everyone else.

 

[spliz]

I never looked at snoop , daz and Kurupt as pacs close homies anyway they were label mates , were cool until the beef got out ov hand but they were never gona ride or die for pac like suge or the outlawz for example were

Then they need to stop eatin off the nikka. Especially punk ass Snoop. Them nikkas almost got smoked cause of Biggie and set it off on the nikka before Pac did yet wanna back down when shyt gets “outta hand”. nikka it was already outta hand when nikkas almost blew ya top off in NY.