When other races separate from their undesireables, they group with their middle and upper class counterparts; not us

[saturn7]

THIS IS THE TRUTH.

In addition to that, the biggest genre of music that our people created is actively encouraging our youth to maintain the slum mentality.

Even if a set of parents “made it” unless they completely remove their kids from the environment that drove them to make it, the kids are right there where the fukkery is taking place and getting pressured into what is “normal” in that environment.

Bruuuuuuuh. What you said played out in this whole Alabama basketball situation.

I'm not a Whitlock fan but he made some relevant points about this very issue.

 

[Mook]

So you’re telling people to instead of abandoning tribalism to switch to a different form of tribalism?

 

[alpo]

Maybe its one size fits all for black people because no matter how much money you make you will still feel the invisible ceiling that is being black in America..Oprah was profiled shopping, Lebron was disrespected by Phil Jackson saying he had a posse, Kobe had the rape case and crackers turned on him whereas Rothesberger never seen that kind of vitriol..just using examples of rich black people who still got nikka wake up..

From the mansion to the projects we all get that wake up call..trailer park crackers can clean up and lie about they back ground, go to school, get a good job and then act like they always been..no one to give them a “wake up call”


This some c00n ass I’m not like those nikkas shyt like breh said above fukk outta here

 

[WIA20XX]

There isn't an artform that constantly projects the imagery of the hillbilly and trailer park trash to the world like there is for the gangbangers and drugdealers.

A whole lot of Country Music promotes and celebrates the hillbilly/redneck image and lifestyle.





There's a whole sub genre of "outlaw country" - some of it is country raps, but most of it ain't.

 

[Braman]

Here is your answer. Statistically speaking you are more likely to be around white people if you are seeking middle and upper class people. There are just more of them, relative to both our subsect of well-doing black people and black people in general.

You have weird bizzaro world exceptions like DC/Maryland area, Charlotte and Atlanta but generally speaking you are moving in with white people if you want a upperclass residence, and the amenities that come with it.

Also, lemme note that you see a similar dynamic among both Asians and Hispanics. The minute they leave Chinatown or little Saigon or the burrito district, they move into neighborhoods with white people. You won't find doctor Wong or judge Alvarez living with their people. Their high achievers look down on the critical masses of Asians and Hispanics in their ethnic claves

Ok….and?!

I find it telling that you say ‘this is the answer’ and everyone co-signed it, bc it underscores the very mindset we’re trying to break: that we move monolithicly, that we all abhor living around white folk and wanna be around each other

As someone who lives in PG county literally the most ‘affluent’ black county in America, I could not care less about living around black folk. I did it bc it was more financially sound, NOT bc ‘I’m rooting for everybody black ’ or any of that goofy shyt. If I could afford to live in Arlington or Alexandria I would. Bc I’d be following the resources and amenities, better schools, etc, not color.

So the answer is it’s way deeper than y’all realize. Bc you naturally assumed we all wanna live together . We don’t And that’s perfectly fine

 

[Thanos]

This is according to Marx.

There are other conceptual frameworks for class out there.

It's the better of the frameworks at describing of what people have now. You can be born and affliated with whomever, but at the end of the day what do you currrently have? Where are you at matters the most.

A lot of warriors in our history would have been considered “undesirable.

A lot of people who were outside, fighting were poor/middle class people. They were "undesirables" to somebody. W/ that known the premise of this thread is kinda of insulting to their legacy.

 

[VoxSphere74]

It's a simple answer to a simple question:

Because Black people aren't able to separate themselves into classes in a majority white country.

Cacs lump all Black people in the same category. That's why upper and middle class Blacks get so upset when cops, doctors, landlords, club owners, store owners, bankers, etc...other cacs treat them with extreme disrespect.

They have to confront that obvious fact that *all* Black people are treated the same way in the US by cacs regardless of their wealth.

That there's no magic anti-racism shield that pops up when you make a certain income.

It's kind of like that scene in Schindler's List. Where the maid tells Oscar, eventually the nazi will do her in just because he feels like it. And she says it's horrendous because there are no rules she can follow that will protect her. She says, "She can't say that if she follows these rules she'll be safe."

 

[IsThatBrothaMouzone?]

Good thread. White people have a ton of names to distinguish themselves from “undesirable” whites and they use these terms with no shame.

Redneck
White Trash
Hillbilly
Inbred

Etc… do other races do this or it is just the whites?

Great points.

Wypipo in general are big on names....naming pieces of land, slurs to people, class distinctions....they have a name for fukking everything.

Black people aren't built like that because we understand that you're only as strong as your weakest link. We don't discard the poor. Notice how brehs will put they people on when they get some $$$ (any athlete that grew up poor/working class). Sometimes helping everyone is a bad idea but we're fundamentally good folks that love our people.

We should never try to emulate others because the others are morally bankrupt. See how the richest whites (or other races) versus the poorest live....and THEY control the power.

Class is more than just income, education, and occupation.

It factors family background, upbringing, lifestyle, social affiliations, network, and values.

You can make $30k/year and still be considered upper class if you were born into an upper class family.

You can make $5mil/year, but if you were not born into the upper class, the highest you can attain is upper middle class at best, granted you have all the accoutrements of that class.

For instance, Oprah and Tyler Perry would be considered black elites. But they are not considered black upper class. We have political elites, academic elites, entertainment elites, cultural elites, etc. They would fall within one of those classifications. But being an elite =/= upper class.

The term black upper class is typically reserved for the group of black folks that are the descendents of the black families whose money originated during Reconstruction, the period right after the abolition of slavery. Or if you go back a little further, the black families that received land, education, or some type of inheritance left behind from a wealthy white slave owning father.

Most of the wealthy people we see in the US are actually upper middle class.

Class can be nuanced and I don't think most people actually understand it.

Great point. There's a Coli thread discussing the truly upper class Black families.

Oprah and Tyler Perry are nouveau-riche, even if they tripled their net worth tomorrow.

For whites, Jeff Bezos would never be considered upper class even with all his money. By comparison, someone like George W. Bush...would be since his family is old money and they came across on the Mayflower.

 

[Prince.Skeletor]

My perspective is there's not really the same thing within the brown community as there is with white people.
I don't really see this with chinese people either.

I think if you live in a country you will not seperate yourselves if you are in the minority.
Separations is what the majorities do

 

[Knuckles Red]

It has to do with the power dynamics at play, the way I see it. The way others view us holds more weight than the way we see each other, or even ourselves. You can be the hardest working, most clean cut, "square" the world has ever seen, but the moment you step out of line you can be called the n-word. That word serves as a verbal lashing reserved only for black people. It has been kept alive and relevant on purpose to do just that. You must also take into consideration how interwoven race, politics, education, and class are. We quite literally cannot separate ourselves. On the more extreme side of things, there are some black people who wouldn't even know how to function outside of the stereotypes foisted upon us. Everything else is sort of internalized and expelled in a "rinse and repeat" type of motion. Generation after generation. And then there's epigenetics and just so many other things reinforcing our status in this world. I'm not saying its impossible, in general. I'm just saying that, within this specific context...it kind of is. I mean even certain foods are racialized. FOODS!!!

 

[Buddy]

Is that Barrington cat paying yall to post his tweets? this is like the third time I seen him

 

[BigMan]

Per the data, Most black people are middle class and lived in suburban areas of cities or in actually suburbs.

You wouldn’t know based on the media though

 

[ExodusNirvana]

Barrington Martin is an OMEGA LEVEL c00n

So it makes total sense that his posting has made its way here to The Coli

 

[CreepyMcCreeperson]

Is that Barrington cat paying yall to post his tweets? this is like the third time I seen him

Every time we find a new one, we find more and more egregious tweets.

 

[EndGame]

c00nbabble.