Double G's phrehs
Thanks for letting Dart & The Skat Man get some Good Reps in on Prime Time while having The Times of their Lives
The Game at The Linc will be The Real Game,Last Night was just A Practice Run
Saw this posted on another site, thought I'd post it here
This from a hardcore eagles fan btw
Hurts:
Full post for those that care
- I'll sound like a broken record, but I am sick and tired of the coddling of Hurts when he consistently makes the same mistakes or refuses to pass to guys who are NFL open but aren't WIDE OPEN. He missed D. Smith for a TD. He missed AJ for a TD on the terrible late throw he threw to Dotson that turned into a pick. And why did he throw that anyway? 'Cause that's his game. Go balls, sideline curls, out, etc, because he's not comfortable throwing to the middle. AJ was wide open running a post route to the middle of the field on the play he threw a pick. It would have been a TD. But nope, Hurts has to throw to WR3, who gets zero separation on a short out that he throws late to make matters worse.
- Want to know why AJ and Smith get upset? It's because of this. And it's because even when they won their first four games, it was mainly due to miracle plays by STs or the defense turning the ball over, and similar plays. They are paying top QB money to throw to (2!) top WRs who they are also paying top 5 money to, and they can't complete simple passes to them.
- Most fans will call for the OC and HC to be fired, but these are the same issues, particularly with the pass game, that Hurts has faced since college: with Doug P, with Nick calling plays, with Shane calling plays, with Brian Johnson, with Kellen Moore, and now with Kevin Patullo. Are we to believe all these coaches, some from very different backgrounds and styles, don't know how to design or call plays? That they can't scheme guys open? I'll point out how bad Shane's offense looked in Indy with Richardson, and now it looks more like his 2022 Philly offense, since he now has a QB who can make his offense work. So did Shane forget how to coach the last 2 seasons?
- Or is it far more likely that the Eagles run the offense that works best with, or for, Hurts? Hurts has come out and said, "It's going to look like how I want it to look". He has said he doesn't like a lot of pre-snap motion. He doesn't like under-center play action. He doesn't like to throw to the middle. Ok, cool then, good luck coming up with a decent passing attack when you have to remove all those elements from the offense.
The game last night was one of the most embarrassing games of this era of Eagles football, maybe in the past 10 years, since Chip Kelly's final year. They all deserve blame, and they all should be called out. Sorry for the long vent ...
Hurts:
- I'll sound like a broken record, but I am sick and tired of the coddling of Hurts when he consistently makes the same mistakes or refuses to pass to guys who are NFL open but aren't WIDE OPEN. He missed D. Smith for a TD. He missed AJ for a TD on the terrible late throw he threw to Dotson that turned into a pick. And why did he throw that anyway? 'Cause that's his game. Go balls, sideline curls, out, etc, because he's not comfortable throwing to the middle. AJ was wide open running a post route to the middle of the field on the play he threw a pick. It would have been a TD. But nope, Hurts has to throw to WR3, who gets zero separation on a short out that he throws late to make matters worse.
- Want to know why AJ and Smith get upset? It's because of this. And it's because even when they won their first four games, it was mainly due to miracle plays by STs or the defense turning the ball over, and similar plays. They are paying top QB money to throw to (2!) top WRs who they are also paying top 5 money to, and they can't complete simple passes to them.
- Most fans will call for the OC and HC to be fired, but these are the same issues, particularly with the pass game, that Hurts has faced since college: with Doug P, with Nick calling plays, with Shane calling plays, with Brian Johnson, with Kellen Moore, and now with Kevin Patullo. Are we to believe all these coaches, some from very different backgrounds and styles, don't know how to design or call plays? That they can't scheme guys open? I'll point out how bad Shane's offense looked in Indy with Richardson, and now it looks more like his 2022 Philly offense, since he now has a QB who can make his offense work. So did Shane forget how to coach the last 2 seasons?
- Or is it far more likely that the Eagles run the offense that works best with, or for, Hurts? Hurts has come out and said, "It's going to look like how I want it to look". He has said he doesn't like a lot of pre-snap motion. He doesn't like under-center play action. He doesn't like to throw to the middle. Ok, cool then, good luck coming up with a decent passing attack when you have to remove all those elements from the offense.
Patullo and Sirrianni
Stoutland:
- The only thing I can find about them is what Lane said post-game. If they are this predictable or giving a tell pre-snap, then it's on Patullo and Nick to fix it. The DL is living in the backfield. So it's either they know what is coming or the OL is complete shyt now. And yeah, the OL sucks right now, but Patullo has to fix this. His sequencing also didn't make much sense. One particular series late in the 3rd quarter sticks out. 1st and 10, run up the middle that gains 1 yard. 2nd and long, they rerun it with Saquon, and it looks like the defense knows the play call beforehand and tackles him for a loss. 3rd and long, dump off to Saquon, who comes up short of the first. WTF is that? I can explain the offensive scheme with my point about Hurts above, but why is this the series play call late in the 3rd qrt down by two scores? Ok, if Hurts only wants to throw go-balls, at least call that. Maybe it will draw a PI or something.
- Or maybe say, "Sorry Jalen, but what we are running to make you comfortable, isn't working." Run more under-center play action. Run more presnap motion. Stop lining up in 2x2 predictable formations. Run more mesh, crossers, and plays in the middle of the field. So what if Hurts isn't comfortable with that stuff? Run it anyway and force him to grow into it. By designing the offense solely around his preferences, it's making the rest of the offensive players miserable. another example - They run zero screen passes. Again, because Jalen doesn't like to. fukk that. Run it anyway.
Vic Fangio and the defense:
- He is not only the OL Coach but the run game coordinator. He got all the love and praise for Mailata, Becton, and how well the line plays overall. But the putrid run game also has to fall on him. He coordinates it. Howie selects the guys he wants. His OL is getting pushed around. Can't block for shyt, and defensive linemen are living in the backfield! Where is the adjustment? Where are the counter moves?
Howie Roseman
- Similar to Stoutland above, he is pretty much untouchable when it comes to criticism. And for good reason after last year. His unit, along with Stoutland's run game, carried the team. Similar to Stoutland, he also has to shoulder the blame for a lackluster defense so far. I get that the DEs aren't great. I get that Ringo at CB2 isn't ideal. Or that Carter and Mitchell were out. But the Giants were playing a rookie QB, two to three backup OLmen, and missing their best two WRs. There is no excuse on earth for this unit to get pushed around like they did last night—zero pass rush. The LBs are getting bulldozed in the run game. Plain vanilla man coverage against a rookie QB. Zero discipline from the rushers to keep Dart in the pocket. Poor tacking in general. WTF? And again, what was the adjustment? Offense hands you the lead, and you let Dart march back down to extend your lead into the 2nd half. Need big stops in the 2nd half? Nope, let them stay on the field. Need to generate pressure? Nope, can't do it. This defense right now doesn't do anything well.
- As I have said many times. When Howie has a good offseason, the team does great. When he misses, he misses badly, and this is the result. Letting Slay, Isiah Rodgers, Sweat, Milton, and Becton all go seemed like the right moves because everyone assumed the guys waiting in the wings, like Ringo, Ojomo, Hunt, Steen, etc., were ready to take the next step. Plus, Howie would replenish through the draft. Well, none of it has worked out. Nolan Smith is hurt, and the other pass rushers are getting zero pass rush. And they didn't draft an EDGE in a loaded class. Steen is decent in pass pro, but nowhere near the run blocker Becton was. He was opening up huge holes for Saquon, whereas Steen is missing blocks on counters and other plays.
- I had high hopes for Ringo, too, but he stinks. Why sign Adoree Jackson when they could have kept Rodgers? Isiah Rodgers should have been brought back. He didn't sign for much in Minnesota, and he is a legit CB2. They needed a legit proven FA DE or draft one high. They didn't even take a DL until the 4th when they took a 26-year-old DT who only got on the field yesterday due to injuries.
- If Howie gets all the love for his savvy cap moves, trades, and when draft picks pan out, then this mess falls on him, too. So far, six games in, he has missed on almost all his big moves this offseason. Ojulari sucks. Uche is just ok. The pass rusher on the team is a 10-year vet, Zadarius Smith, whom they signed after the first week. To make up for it, Vic is having to blitz far more than he ever has. CB 2 is a huge weakness, and Vic is using DeJean as CB 2 in base packages to cover it up, but that takes DeJean away from what he does best.
- Not even sure what he can do now to fix these messes.
Yeah since that Playoff L in 22Doubles g's indeed good brother. Y'all owed us one of those from waaay back.
Kudos to you for being one of the dope fans that stays true, pops shyt regardless of record and doesn't run.
......but shyt I did feel that L was coming after N.O but I did feel Dart(and Skat) still had that Confidence despite it,especially going against a Divisional Rival in Primetime....next Game will be a bigger test,especially if y'all get them guys back on Defense....I look forward to them M/TNF and Fox Afternoon Games to have more meaning now
Yeah since that Playoff L in 22
Goal as always should be division first. Giants will get theirs. Dallass is ass. Nobody scared of Jayden mcdaniels (miss you CJGJ). We have the talent. Vic will never have doubts from me again I trust him on D. They just need to get healthy and stop running three plays on offense and the division is ours. Once we in the playoffs I fear no one.
