When u think about Trump hasnt dealt wit shyt. Lets think back to things Obeezy had to overcome

[Tony D'Amato]

Financial Crisis
BP oil spill
Fukkin Ebola
Japan Nuke shyt
Bin Laden
Constant obstruction

I know Im forgetting shyt.

 

[Domingo Halliburton]

Looking back on it, he was a fence sitting centrist p*ssy when it came to the financial crisis. He looked out for the banks instead of the people being foreclosed on and the stimulus package was too small.

 

[Starman]

Financial Crisis
BP oil spill
Fukkin Ebola
Japan Nuke shyt
Bin Laden
Constant obstruction

I know Im forgetting shyt.

You're comparing 3 years on office to 8. Also, resistance to Trump dwarfs resistance to Obama.

 

[Kyle C. Barker]

You're comparing 3 years on office to 8. Also, resistance to Trump dwarfs resistance to Obama.

I'm not seeing it. I think Obama dealt with 2 government shutdowns compared to the one that trump initiated.

Also they wouldn't even let Obama get a scotus pick.

 

[Tony D'Amato]

You're comparing 3 years on office to 8. Also, resistance to Trump dwarfs resistance to Obama.

Obama came in during chaos. This dude Trump has had it easy.

 

[Geek Nasty]

The rise of ISIS and the fukkboy in Iraq who created the whole mess. the whole region destabilized because of the fall of Saddam Hussein, leading to the rise of Iran. Israel fukking us over on the Stuxnet virus and basically leaking our hacks to the world. The repercussions of Bush's fukkup in the Middle East are going to last maybe 40 years after he invaded.

 

[Starman]

I'm not seeing it. I think Obama dealt with 2 government shutdowns compared to the one that trump initiated.

Also they wouldn't even let Obama get a scotus pick.

Government shutdowns are small potatoes.

And Obama appointed Sotomayor and Kagan.

Garland was a power move, but not without precedent (which Rs will discard for Trump). But Ds would do the same to Trump if they had the Senate.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

You're comparing 3 years on office to 8. Also, resistance to Trump dwarfs resistance to Obama.

What obstacle has Trump faced (other than those of his own creation) that is remotely close to what Obama faced?

Trump came in with the economy in perfect shape, Obama came in at the height of crisis. Trump's getting judges approved at record rates, Obama had to face unprecedented obstruction. Trump gets attacked for being an a$$hole and saying horrible things, Obama got attacked for being Black, a Democrat, the son of an African, and the grandson of a Muslim.

Garland was a power move, but not without precedent (which Rs will discard for Trump). But Ds would do the same to Trump if they had the Senate.

There was no actual precedent for what specifically happened. And if you think the Dems would have done it before the Reps set the mold, then you haven't been paying any attention to how they move.

Republican obstruction of judicial appointments under Obama was already unprecedented, and far worse than anything the Dems had done to Bush. Now Trump has it easy as hell even as he makes among the worst appointments in history.

 

[Worthless Loser]

You're comparing 3 years on office to 8. Also, resistance to Trump dwarfs resistance to Obama.

The only "resistance" that matters is Congressional resistance. There's a laundry list of Republican Congressional resistance during Obama's time. They blocked many bills. Immigration reform, Minimum wage increase, criminal justice reform. It's no comparison.

 

[Starman]

What obstacle has Trump faced (other than those of his own creation) that is remotely close to what Obama faced?

Trump had Deepstate opposition. Leaks, false intelligence, a special council! There was legit talk of him not lasting a year. No honeymoon phase. He was allegedly a Manchurian Candidate and there like 4 investigations of that claim.

There was no actual precedent for what specifically happened.

The situations don't have to be identical, only close enough for the party in power to be able to convince the base that this is acceptable. It's politics. It was a power move. They had the senate and held the line.

And if you think the Dems would have done it before the Reps set the mold, then you haven't been paying any attention to how they move.

If there was a Cheney Rule instead of a Biden Rule, and Dems had the Senate ? Absolutely.

 

[Starman]

The only "resistance" that matters is Congressional resistance.

I disagree. Judicial resistance and DoJ/FBI resistance matter too.

 

[Worthless Loser]

I disagree. Judicial resistance and DoJ/FBI resistance matter too.

DOJ resistance? The only way DOJ is going to resist a President is if he's asking them to do something illegal or morally wrong. And in that case, the DOJ resistance is necessary. Judicial resistance? Maybe they should exact policies that would pass the judicial system. That's not the judicial system fault.

 

[¯\_(ツ)_/¯]

Trump had Deepstate opposition. Leaks, false intelligence, a special council! There was legit talk of him not lasting a year. No honeymoon phase. He was allegedly a Manchurian Candidate and there like 4 investigations of that claim.



The situations don't have to be identical, only close enough for the party in power to be able to convince the base that this is acceptable. It's politics. It was a power move. They had the senate and held the line.

If there was a Cheney Rule instead of a Biden Rule, and Dems had the Senate ? Absolutely.

You’re running for president. Assuming all circumstances/situations are the same, except you can govern however you so choose.

Which presidency would you choose to govern under?

Obama’s or Trump’s

 

[Kyle C. Barker]

I disagree. Judicial resistance and DoJ/FBI resistance matter too.

What you call judicial resistance is what I call trump not understanding the constitution.

 

[DirtyD]

You're comparing 3 years on office to 8. Also, resistance to Trump dwarfs resistance to Obama.

fukk outta here.

Yes, there are many, many examples of hypocrisy throughout McConnell’s piece. You could note his description of cloture votes as a “once-rare procedural step” is pretty fukking rich considering they rose to prominence under Obama because his party kept filibustering nominations. You could note his history of blocking high-profile nominees, like Richard Cordray, or you could simply say the name “Merrick Garland” and feel the rage course through your veins. You could note that in 1994, he said: “I am a proud guardian of gridlock. I think gridlock is making a big comeback in the country.” You could note that in November 2013, Politifact reported there were 68 nominees blocked in the entire history of the U.S. before Obama, “and 79 (so far) during Obama’s term.” You could note that one of Obama’s judicial nominees literally died after two years of waiting for a confirmation vote.

https://splinternews.com/mcconnell-is-a-massive-hypocrite-but-it-hardly-matters-1833714329

Opposition parties always oppose, especially in a country as polarized as America. Republicans impeached Bill Clinton, and Democratic fury at George W. Bush helped pave the way for Obama. What has distinguished the opposition to Obama is not just the intensity—a GOP congressman shouting “You lie!” during a presidential address, Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell’s admission that his top priority was limiting Obama to one term—but the consistency. Before Obama even took office, when official Washington was counseling cooperation and moderation for a party that seemed to be on a path to oblivion, Cantor and McConnell laid out their strategies of all-out opposition at private GOP meetings. And on just about every issue, from Obamacare to climate to education reforms that conservatives supported until Obama embraced them, Republicans have embraced that strategy.

The Victory of ‘No’

And I don't fukk with Obama AT All, but stop with your ahistorical horseshyt.