When you use ‘modern’ as an insult and say you’re ‘traditional’…

[DA_LURKA]

you’re being disingenuous.

How so?
How is saying someone is modern an insult?

 

[Mindfield333]

How so?
How is saying someone is modern an insult?

If it’s not a compliment then what is it?

 

[DA_LURKA]

If it’s not a compliment then what is it?

A description

 

[Jazzy B.]

“Modern Women” is just code for IG era women.

Goddamn simps, flabby brehs and OLD nikkas always gotta add some extra shyt to something basic complicated for no reason

 

[Xyrax]

It can definitely be an insult instead of a description. It depends on the person using it and the intent behind the statement.

Lets not act unfamiliar with nikkas rocking limited vocabularies brehs.

 

[Mindfield333]

A description isn't an insult...

I literally had a hours long discussion about this but with a different word:
So descriptions don’t have intent? It’s just meant is just a default term with no positive or negative intentions behind it? Yes or no?

 

[Spectre]

How is it an insult?

Worst part is he's not saying anything new and they just humming deep and making faces like he just dropped gems.

Times changed.

There's the old way of doing things and then the new way or modern way of doing things

Traditional shoppers go to mom and pop stores. Modern shoppers have everything delivered including groceries.

Traditional drivers like driving stick or hearing the engine. Modern drivers would rather drive a soundproof tesla.

Traditional daters date one person at a time and give their all into it. Modern daters date multiple people and don't fully invest till they're exclusive.

 

[Braman]

I read the title expecting that yellin ass ngga…only to hit play and it’s another yellin ass ngga… but then they panned over and it IS that yellin ass ngga he just has a guest

1. I don’t respect any man performing in front of women. They’re catering to that demographic of women who are begging for and are easily moved by ‘men checking other men’.

2. Dude made 1 clip with an aggressive tone and saw it went viral so now that’s the shtick.

3. To his actual point, no, that’s MODERN black folk problem now is it’s a race to reinvent the wheel. Everything is about breaking generational curses and recovering from trauma this, trauma that. ‘you trying to evade what’s happened to ALL of us’. Man fukk all that. That’s a way to keep black folk monolithic.

And speaking candidly to that point, we got nggas who never had a father figure giving advice to those who do We got agnostic ‘lol white Jesus’ folk giving advice to Christians…we got CDL LLC trap boy enterprenuer nggas giving advice to fol with a 9-5, phD, masters. Rappers giving advice to—-We are not all the same

 

[Bonk]

There are too many useless podcasts out there.

I hope they either regulate it or increase the cost of podcast equipment.

Just too many idiots/simpletons with a microphone & camera. It’s nauseating at this point.

 

[WIA20XX]

Is he spittin’?

SMH, They won't let Kevin Samuels rest

 

[Gloxina]

So, here's the thing.

"Traditional" as we define it today is a somewhat Eurocentric concept.

The idea that American women in the 1950's never had jobs and only depended on men to make money to provide for the whole family on 1 income is rooted in a falsehood that mostly applied to upper class White women.

Upper Class White women in the past were able to live out the "princess" fantasy of having to only watch over their picket fence homes and children while the man handled all the finances and provided for everyone on a high income. But this wasn't universal. Even working class White women(especially immigrants) didn't live this lifestyle. A lot of Irish and Italian immigrant women still worked in sewing factories and other jobs to help make ends meet with their families.

Black women, of course, rarely had that luxury too. In many rural Black Southern families, men were still the breadwinners but tons of people worked, including women and kids. Plenty of Black women worked low wage jobs and many Black kids were pressured to work at young ages too.

Traditionalism is overrated. What's more important is stability and stability is really flexible and not confined to archaic rules.

In 2023, only rural rednecks who live in small towns full of 300 people or wealthy aristocrats can afford to be "traditional." Everyone else must pool their resources together to give their relationships and families a stable lifestyle.

One of the reasons Asians, Jews, and Indians are so successful is because they AREN'T traditional in the 1950's American sense, despite having that reputation. All 3 groups specifically marry women who would be deemed "ball busters" or "career women" but such decisions end up paying off for them in the long run.

Black people can be traditional. Hell, there was a TLC show about a Black family called the Derricos who have like a million kids and the father provided for everyone while the woman stayed at home. But Mr. Derrico has a good job PLUS TLC money so he's playing by different rules than the majority of us.

We need to emphasize STABILITY, not traditionalism. There's a difference but a lot of men focus on traditonalism more because of the Leave It To Beaver/Andy Griffith esque 1950's family myth. It's similar to when people fetishize libertarianism imho.

I feel like I’m in the Twilight Zone.

The brehs have been breaking it DOWN today.
What is in the water


The biggest compliment I can give on TheColi is that a man deserves an appreciative woman and the big piece of chicken.

You certainly deserve all that, sir.

 

[Wildhundreds]

I literally had a hours long discussion about this but with a different word:
So descriptions don’t have intent? It’s just meant is just a default term with no positive or negative intentions behind it? Yes or no?

Depends on the tenor of the discussion. Sensitive people are triggered by a lot of things other people aren't also.

 

[DA_LURKA]

So descriptions don’t have intent? It’s just meant is just a default term with no positive or negative intentions behind it?

They can... A description can be put out as positive, neutral, or negative... It can be received as positive, neutral, or negative regardless of the person expressing the descriptions intent...

 

[Spectre]

I hate when dudes say basic ass statements and women just making faces and hollering like dudes said something groundbreaking






"Modern means current!!!" oooh he talking now

"Men that don't have resources can't provide for another person" wow I never thought of it that way

"the reason women stayed home is because times were different back then" whoa he preaching now


"Traditional means the old way of thinking" oh this man is on another level right now, preach!!!


"Women are working more than ever because times have changed" where did y'all find this brother?

 

[Mindfield333]

They can... A description can be put out as positive, neutral, or negative... It can be received as positive, neutral, or negative regardless of the person expressing the descriptions intent...

so the context and tone when someone gives this description will definitely tell you the intent whether it’s positive negative or neutral… correct? I haven’t Heard the phrase uttered in a neutral way when I’ve heard it said. So in these instances the intent is negative