Womb Raider
sigh….*unzips pants*
I'll give y'all some respect if y'all trade Jimmy back to the Sixers for Tobias 

They were predicted to win 51 fukking games on ESPN and won 44 and once again BARELY MADE THE PLAYOFFS. What respect did you guys deserve? What exactly are you guys bytching about, they played bad and people rightfully doubted them. Acting as if that's disrespectful is absurd.
They were 40-37 going into their final 5 games and there's a question of if they'd even finish in the top 8.
I argue that "talent level" is based on which skills you percieve to be more valuable. And most people do not value defense because it isn't the most aesthetically pleasing skill. Heat team defense takes talent. Breaking down defenses and following Xs and Os takes is a talent.I don’t think they’ve had the more talented roster in either of these last two rounds and I don’t think they had the most talent in the east last year even with the best record …they’ve consistent out performed their talent level imo …. Not to be confused with having 0 talent but speaking comparatively to their competitors
Yeah that’s more of a credit to Spo schematically as opposed to raw defensive ability or talent from their players IMO …Bam is fabulous defensively Jimmy is solid I like Martin ..but a team rolling out Kevin Love, Max Struss and Gabe Vincent (even tho he has been solid this year defensively) in their starting 5 isn’t that talented from an individual defense perspective… these aren’t all nba level defenders ..they might be the worst starting unit from a talent PoV defensively out of all remaining teams in the east but having a great coach that knows how to scheme around their weaknesses is what elevates the teams production IMO which is a great thing for themI argue that "talent level" is based on which skills you percieve to be more valuable. And most people do not value defense because it isn't the most aesthetically pleasing skill. Heat team defense takes talent. Breaking down defenses and following Xs and Os takes is a talent.
I don’t think they’re that talented on either side of the ball …they struggled all regular season because of it and Spo has had to make several lineup changes because of it …. If you think they are more talent rich than the Celtics or 76ers or Bucks (when healthy) then god bless you …there’s not much to talk aboutI just think because they aren't offensively pleasing to the casual, they are automatically dismissed as "undertalented". Defensively, they are outperforming their competitors.
So are all the other coaches garbage with immense talent on the floor?Yeah that’s more of a credit to Spo schematically as opposed to raw defensive ability or talent from their players IMO …Bam is fabulous defensively Jimmy is solid I like Martin ..but a team rolling out Kevin Love, Max Struss and Gabe Vincent (even tho he has been solid this year defensively) in their starting 5 isn’t that talented from an individual defense perspective… these aren’t all nba level defenders ..they might be the worst starting unit from a talent PoV defensively out of all remaining teams in the east but having a great coach that knows how to scheme around their weaknesses is what elevates the teams production IMO which is a great thing for them
I don’t think they’re that talented on either side of the ball …they struggled all regular season because of it and Spo has had to make several lineup changes because of it …. If you think they are more talent rich than the Celtics or 76ers or Bucks (when healthy) then god bless you …there’s not much to talk about
I think that Spo is a better coach than Bud and Thibbs …I think most would agreeSo are all the other coaches garbage with immense talent on the floor?
What's the deal with the Heat and PED accusations? Heat culture too effective for you?Jimmy Butler will never win a championship. Just an arrogant try-hard.
He also needs to be tested for PEDs.
Pat Riley hooks his guys up. Been that way from day 1What's the deal with the Heat and PED accusations? Heat culture too effective for you?