Where are all the Heat doubters at? Edit: Dame is on the way. Don't jump on the bandwagon now

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I'll give y'all some respect if y'all trade Jimmy back to the Sixers for Tobias :lolbron:
 

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They were predicted to win 51 fukking games on ESPN and won 44 and once again BARELY MADE THE PLAYOFFS. What respect did you guys deserve? What exactly are you guys bytching about, they played bad and people rightfully doubted them. Acting as if that's disrespectful is absurd.

They were 40-37 going into their final 5 games and there's a question of if they'd even finish in the top 8.

We were the first seed last year, we were one of the best shooting teams last year, and we had multiple injuries this entire season plus it’s been shown numerous times that our star player turns up into the playoffs.

Lowry missed almost 30 games this year. Butler missed almost 20 games. 23 year old Herro and 25 year old Bam were adapting to entirely new roles (Bam trying to be a primary scorer, Herro being a starter) and we lost some side so we had players playing out of position.

But guess what else? The Miami Heat had the most “clutch” games in the entire regular season. Games that were decided by one or two possessions in a time where the team was battling loads of inconsistency with their roles and some slumping from their players.

The Heat has posted a 29-22 record in its league-leading 51 clutch games (one that has a margin of five points or fewer inside the final five minutes of the fourth quarter) and has already tied the single-season NBA record for the most wins by five points or less with 24 such victories this season.

We got into the playoffs and looked exactly like team that made it to the ECF as the 1st seed last year. Destroyed the Bucks, destroyed the Hawks, destroyed the 76ers, and we’ve been doing it in decisive fashion.

All you’re seeing is the Heat starting exactly where they left in the playoffs last season. Players are more healthy, their playing the roles they excelled in during our playoff sucesss, and we look just as good as we did in the last playoffs.

Y’all stay sukkin the dikk of regular season teams in a 3 point heavy era where we know that vast majority of seasoned teams don’t even start taking the season seriously until after the All Star break.
 

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Watch this one.

It’s even more disgusting

They never talk about how Miami teams have to go up in December to play cold weather teams

They never talk about Miami players themselves losing because the Heat players themselves are enjoying the night life.

Always excuse after excuse

Butler has been playing with a bad knee and a bad ankle making no excuses. Bam has a bad hamstring. Herro has been out. Oladipo gone.

Yet Giannis has been gentlemen swept TWICE once in the bubble and this year and we hear excuse after excuse. I’m glad I don’t watch these clowns
 

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This is a legendary run by the heat.

94 nuggets and 07 warriors both got stomped in the second round.

99 knicks were not an 8 seed in a normal year. They finished 5 games above 500 in a strike shortened season and had to adjust to sprewell being on the team. They would've had home court in a 82 game season.

This heat team embarrassed and eliminated a former champion. Badly. Coach got fired. Giannis out here trash talking through social media cause he lost. New York thought they had a free pass to the ECF, Jimmy Butler out here going to the F1 races in between games, that's how easy it is right now.

Tonight is gonna be good
 

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@Godless Liberal CEO

And if you want to say “They underperformed in the regular season” then most Heat fans will agree with you.

What we’re discussing is how every series the Heat has won, since the Bubble, they were counted on and then excuses are consistently made to discredit the Heat’s victory.

Jimmy, Lowry, and Herro injured against the Celtics in a series that went 7 games? Crickets. Can’t be the reason the Celtics pulled ahead.

Giannis gets injured against the Heat, that’s the only reason the Heat won! Who cares that the only game the Heat lost was the game Giannis didn’t see the floor. The Heat just got hot! Bud sucks!

Now the excuse train is starting for the Knicks after multiple analysts chose them to win due to their depth, size, and toughness. Now it’s that they weren’t ACTUALLY that good when they were a Scott Foster master class from getting swept.

Maybe the Heat are just good. Maybe they’re just a battle tested team who raises their play when the game matters most and they play better basketball than team you think are more talented.
 

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I already can’t tell you what they will say if the Heat advance to the ECF and win. We already know they’re gonna blame the night life and the weather. But in addition:

If they beat Boston the media will blame the inexperience of Coach Joe Mazulla. You will hear “How much of a distraction was Ime Udokas suspension in the beginning of the season?” You won’t hear a peep about golden boy Tatum being MIA.

If they beat Philly the media will blame Doc Rivers and his playoff failures. Then they will pivot and use the opportunity to show why Jokic deserves the MVP over Embiid while ignoring the Heat.

It’s so predictable
:russ:
 

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I don’t think they’ve had the more talented roster in either of these last two rounds and I don’t think they had the most talent in the east last year even with the best record …they’ve consistent out performed their talent level imo …. Not to be confused with having 0 talent but speaking comparatively to their competitors
I argue that "talent level" is based on which skills you percieve to be more valuable. And most people do not value defense because it isn't the most aesthetically pleasing skill. Heat team defense takes talent. Breaking down defenses and following Xs and Os takes is a talent.

I just think because they aren't offensively pleasing to the casual, they are automatically dismissed as "undertalented". Defensively, they are outperforming their competitors.
 

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I argue that "talent level" is based on which skills you percieve to be more valuable. And most people do not value defense because it isn't the most aesthetically pleasing skill. Heat team defense takes talent. Breaking down defenses and following Xs and Os takes is a talent.
Yeah that’s more of a credit to Spo schematically as opposed to raw defensive ability or talent from their players IMO …Bam is fabulous defensively Jimmy is solid I like Martin ..but a team rolling out Kevin Love, Max Struss and Gabe Vincent (even tho he has been solid this year defensively) in their starting 5 isn’t that talented from an individual defense perspective… these aren’t all nba level defenders ..they might be the worst starting unit from a talent PoV defensively out of all remaining teams in the east but having a great coach that knows how to scheme around their weaknesses is what elevates the teams production IMO which is a great thing for them
I just think because they aren't offensively pleasing to the casual, they are automatically dismissed as "undertalented". Defensively, they are outperforming their competitors.
I don’t think they’re that talented on either side of the ball …they struggled all regular season because of it and Spo has had to make several lineup changes because of it …. If you think they are more talent rich than the Celtics or 76ers or Bucks (when healthy) then god bless you …there’s not much to talk about
 

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Yeah that’s more of a credit to Spo schematically as opposed to raw defensive ability or talent from their players IMO …Bam is fabulous defensively Jimmy is solid I like Martin ..but a team rolling out Kevin Love, Max Struss and Gabe Vincent (even tho he has been solid this year defensively) in their starting 5 isn’t that talented from an individual defense perspective… these aren’t all nba level defenders ..they might be the worst starting unit from a talent PoV defensively out of all remaining teams in the east but having a great coach that knows how to scheme around their weaknesses is what elevates the teams production IMO which is a great thing for them

I don’t think they’re that talented on either side of the ball …they struggled all regular season because of it and Spo has had to make several lineup changes because of it …. If you think they are more talent rich than the Celtics or 76ers or Bucks (when healthy) then god bless you …there’s not much to talk about
So are all the other coaches garbage with immense talent on the floor?
 
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