Where does Patrick Ewing rank all time?

[intruder]

Zo never was a frail dude and he was heavier his first year then kg is now

Not quite KB but you know what i mean, dude.

Zo put on at least 30 lbs from his CHarlotte says at some point while with Miami before he got sick. Thus all the steroid rumors. Then he got sick and i saw him in person at his barbershop on 54th and Biscayne and dude looked like Manute Bol. I was afraid he was done. Then got the transplant and gained some of it back but not quite to his max.

If you see him now you'd think he's sick again. Saw him in Haiti in 2011 and was like

 

[NYC Rebel]

I fukking hate these arguments. Ewing's #5 for centers. I said it. If Starks didn't keep shooting those bricks, he'd be above Hakeem IMO. If Jordan didn't block out an entire decade for himself, I strongly believe we would've had at least one or two titles. I followed the game so closely back then. The Knicks really were the Bulls biggest competition during 92, 93.

It still burns. ::cry::

He still wouldn't be above Hakeem if Starks played well and the Knicks won that series. Ewing wouldn't have even been the MVP of that series had the Knicks won.

He was a suspect rebounder with small hands and couldn't pass the ball.

 

[BlackFeet]

I'm talking height wise

Zo is 6'10" tall. 6'9 according to some

The prototypical PF is between 6'9 and 6'11. The prototypical Center is 6'11 and up. This was by 80's and 90's standards of course.

From a height standpoint Zo was a PF or a small center who played way above his size (height). And Zo had to build his body to that weight. Remember as a rookie dude barely looked like KG looks now..almost frail. So he had to build his body into a Center's frame despite the height difference.''

When i think of a prototype PF the few players who's bodies come to mind were:

• Webber
• Othis Thorpe
• P.J. Brown (when he put on weight with the Heat)

When i think of a prototype Centers the few players who's bodies come to mind were:

• Ewing
• Rasheed Wallace (who actually played PF)
• Duncan (ditto)

I guess i'm stuck in my way of thinking but unless you are 6'11 i tend to see you as C no matter what you play but based on your skill set you can move around since Centers are typically the LEAST skilled position

But Duncan and Wallace are 6'10 barefoot, and their games resemble that of a 4...

 

[NYC Rebel]

The Bulls really made me dislike Ewing. My hate for them moved towards him when he allowed bums like Longley, Wennington and Cartwright (who wasn't a bum) move him from is spot and force him into jump shots. I hated that fukker for that.

 

[intruder]

But Duncan and Wallace are 6'10 barefoot, and their games resemble that of a 4...

From what I understand the NBA lists players heights WITH SHOES on. Which is fine because you dont play barefooted and the padding on shoes dont deviate much from the norm among the different shoes worn.

Correct me if im wrong but isnt Duncan 7 feet tall? He always looked taller than Garnett to me. And I thought Sheed was 6'11

 

[BlackFeet]

From what I understand the NBA lists players heights WITH SHOES on. Which is fine because you dont play barefooted and the padding on shoes dont deviate much from the norm among the different shoes worn.

Correct me if im wrong but isnt Duncan 7 feet tall? And I thought Sheed was 6'11

Well, by ur standards, I have no fukkin' clue, we'd have to check their shoes

 

[bobbiewishbone]

where do you some of you get this stuff from?

 

[Walt]

Lets stop and ponder this....


The Ewing led Knicks are one of maybe two teams that came close to and probably could have beaten that Bulls team. Charles Smith dunks one of those attempts and things are very very different.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA you 90s knicks fans are the greatest. "probably could have beaten"=had shot after shot after shot and never did beat. Then again, knicks fans truly have convinced themselves that Grocery Bagger Vance "dunked on" Michael Jordan.

Starks was not the most talented player Ewing ever played with, by the way. The knicks front office failed Pat in never getting him a top notch #2 , but they were good at getting talented players who could execute their roles well within that ugly system of slowed down half-court offense and jail-yard defense they played under Riley.

D. Rob, corny as he seemed, led his team to a 12-7 record vs. Ewing's Knicks in head-to-head matchups and averaged 23 & 9 on 50% shooting while All Beef Patty put up 19.8 & 10 on 43% shooting.

Ewing at his absolute peak was a beast. But with those knees catching fire he became less of a defensive presence outside of being a strong help defender, and he fell too in love with him jumper which was great for a big man but still not an efficient enough shot.

It doesn't help that he and his game were aesthetically unpleasant. I truly believe a lot of people appreciated his less and rate him lower because he wore Hammer Pants on his knees, lumbered up and down the court, always looked like he was 45 minutes into a sauna session, his box fade looked like it was rockin a v-neck, and he had that ugly ass sweep across the lane move. His dunks had no flair. He got dunked on time and again, including two of the most disrespectful dunks in the history on mankind. In the clutch against the Rockets it was Starks and not Ewing hoisting the ball; in the clutch against the Pacers, there was Ewing gracelessly missing a finger roll.

He was also one of the least relevant members of the Dream Team. I remember watching the Dream Team doc that came out last summer, there was a part where Jordan, Barkley, maybe Magic, and Ewing were being interviewed and the guy asks "with all these great players on one team, who takes the last shot?" and Ewing blurted out "Me." I got half a dozeen text messages from friends within minutes, all of them saying, essentially, "nikka, please." Ewing is kind of the prototype for a Level B superstar. He's like the Gobots, and the MJs, Hakeems and even the Barkleys, Malones of the world were Transformers. Pat's swag levels were low and he looked like some kind of sweaty ass basketball Chewbacca out there, making those slow forays into the lane.

All that being said, he would feast on DuhWhite.

 

[Carlos Huerta]

Top 10 Dunks on Patrick Ewing - YouTube

I'm not saying it's not true.. I just don't think it has anything to do with the analysis of someone's career. Dude was big and slow. He still had a shytload of blocks in his career.

 

[Big Mel]

Charles Smith dunks one of those attempts and its a different basketball landscape.

And The Admiral was a big talented freak with no heart going against a big doofy warrior with bad knees.


Ewing > Robinson

 

[NYC Rebel]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA you 90s knicks fans are the greatest. "probably could have beaten"=had shot after shot after shot and never did beat. Then again, knicks fans truly have convinced themselves that Grocery Bagger Vance "dunked on" Michael Jordan.

Starks was not the most talented player Ewing ever played with, by the way. The knicks front office failed Pat in never getting him a top notch #2 , but they were good at getting talented players who could execute their roles well within that ugly system of slowed down half-court offense and jail-yard defense they played under Riley.

D. Rob, corny as he seemed, led his team to a 12-7 record vs. Ewing's Knicks in head-to-head matchups and averaged 23 & 9 on 50% shooting while All Beef Patty put up 19.8 & 10 on 43% shooting.

Ewing at his absolute peak was a beast. But with those knees catching fire he became less of a defensive presence outside of being a strong help defender, and he fell too in love with him jumper which was great for a big man but still not an efficient enough shot.

It doesn't help that he and his game were aesthetically unpleasant. I truly believe a lot of people appreciated his less and rate him lower because he wore Hammer Pants on his knees, lumbered up and down the court, always looked like he was 45 minutes into a sauna session, his box fade looked like it was rockin a v-neck, and he had that ugly ass sweep across the lane move. His dunks had no flair. He got dunked on time and again, including two of the most disrespectful dunks in the history on mankind. In the clutch against the Rockets it was Starks and not Ewing hoisting the ball; in the clutch against the Pacers, there was Ewing gracelessly missing a finger roll.

He was also one of the least relevant members of the Dream Team. I remember watching the Dream Team doc that came out last summer, there was a part where Jordan, Barkley, maybe Magic, and Ewing were being interviewed and the guy asks "with all these great players on one team, who takes the last shot?" and Ewing blurted out "Me." I got half a dozeen text messages from friends within minutes, all of them saying, essentially, "nikka, please." Ewing is kind of the prototype for a Level B superstar. He's like the Gobots, and the MJs, Hakeems and even the Barkleys, Malones of the world were Transformers. Pat's swag levels were low and he looked like some kind of sweaty ass basketball Chewbacca out there, making those slow forays into the lane.

All that being said, he would feast on DuhWhite.

BRILLIANT......and that horse straddle shyt he used to do across the lane.

 

[mastermind]

his box fade looked like it was rockin a v-neck,

...


Pat's swag levels were low and he looked like some kind of sweaty ass basketball Chewbacca out there, making those slow forays into the lane.

 

[NYC Rebel]

I bet you that niqqa keeps losing those head coach jobs sweating through his suit during the interview process.

 

[Carlos Huerta]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA you 90s knicks fans are the greatest. "probably could have beaten"=had shot after shot after shot and never did beat. Then again, knicks fans truly have convinced themselves that Grocery Bagger Vance "dunked on" Michael Jordan.

Starks was not the most talented player Ewing ever played with, by the way. The knicks front office failed Pat in never getting him a top notch #2 , but they were good at getting talented players who could execute their roles well within that ugly system of slowed down half-court offense and jail-yard defense they played under Riley.

D. Rob, corny as he seemed, led his team to a 12-7 record vs. Ewing's Knicks in head-to-head matchups and averaged 23 & 9 on 50% shooting while All Beef Patty put up 19.8 & 10 on 43% shooting.

Ewing at his absolute peak was a beast. But with those knees catching fire he became less of a defensive presence outside of being a strong help defender, and he fell too in love with him jumper which was great for a big man but still not an efficient enough shot.

It doesn't help that he and his game were aesthetically unpleasant. I truly believe a lot of people appreciated his less and rate him lower because he wore Hammer Pants on his knees, lumbered up and down the court, always looked like he was 45 minutes into a sauna session, his box fade looked like it was rockin a v-neck, and he had that ugly ass sweep across the lane move. His dunks had no flair. He got dunked on time and again, including two of the most disrespectful dunks in the history on mankind. In the clutch against the Rockets it was Starks and not Ewing hoisting the ball; in the clutch against the Pacers, there was Ewing gracelessly missing a finger roll.

He was also one of the least relevant members of the Dream Team. I remember watching the Dream Team doc that came out last summer, there was a part where Jordan, Barkley, maybe Magic, and Ewing were being interviewed and the guy asks "with all these great players on one team, who takes the last shot?" and Ewing blurted out "Me." I got half a dozeen text messages from friends within minutes, all of them saying, essentially, "nikka, please." Ewing is kind of the prototype for a Level B superstar. He's like the Gobots, and the MJs, Hakeems and even the Barkleys, Malones of the world were Transformers. Pat's swag levels were low and he looked like some kind of sweaty ass basketball Chewbacca out there, making those slow forays into the lane.

All that being said, he would feast on DuhWhite.

 

[BlackFeet]

I bet you that niqqa keeps losing those head coach jobs sweating through his suit during the interview process.