Where does "white devil" comes from ?

[Turenne]

Isn't that the book that tries to act like their wasn't a world outside of Eurasia but does it in a PC way? fukk outta here with that bullshyt book.

I can see you've read and thought about the book in great detail...

 

[MR. SNIFLES]

Some you act like the world was all peaceful and happy until white people showed up


white people just won

And it has nothing to do with race...


now, bring on the negs

THERE HAS ALWAYS BEEN WARS AND SUCH. THE THING IS NO OTHER RACE HAS THE REPUTATION THAT WHITES HAVE FOR fukkING UP CIVILIZATIONS. PFFT AND THEY LIKE TO PORTRAY AFRICAN AMERICANS AS LOCUSTS OF THE LAND. THEY GOT US BEAT BY A LANDSLIDE.

 

[Black Hans]

I can see you've read and thought about the book in great detail...

Does the book not focus on the Eurasian land mass and act as if nothing else matters in world history in a PC way?

 

[theworldismine13]

guns germs and steel is good i recommend reading it along with this

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/18...=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=1846682568

GGS gives you the environmental reasons as to how societies developed, fukuyama deals with the cultural and political development of societies, both books complement each other IMO

 

[Turenne]

Does the book not focus on the Eurasian land mass

It has to 'focus' on Eurasia, that is where the overwhelming amount of historical sources come from. How can you expect a historian to write about areas in great detail when he has no sources from the area to draw from?

Also, you use of the term 'pc' is .Only retards use that phrase.

Finally, dismissing an entire book you've never read and evidently don't understand is

 

[Blackking]

Arab slave traders did the same thing. They gave white people the blueprint. But you convenient ignore this.

Thread is about a different group who did it.
It doesn't convince me to ignore anything that is negative against my people. I'm black, I know what was done. Specifically I'm a black amerikkan and I know who enslaved and continuously oppressed my people til this day. I don't agree that it was the same thing however.

 

[profound]

some but not all criticism/arguments against guns germs steel:

- seems ''terribly confused'' about history

- misleads the reader into presuming that Western Europe is responsible for technological inventions that actually arose in the Middle East and Asia

- in Europe, the major economic and technological developments of the last 500-600 years took place in Northern and Western Europe, which is generally flat, casting doubt on Diamond's suggestion that Europe benefitted by competition among societies that developed separately due to geographic barriers, such as mountains

- ignored or underestimated the nutritional value of several staple crops that grow naturally outside the temperate parts of Eurasia, overestimated the difficulty of adapting crops to new conditions by selective breeding, and ignored the separation of agriculturally productive regions within Eurasia's temperate belt by deserts and mountains

- "law of history" regarding the dominance of agricultural societies over their non-agricultural neighbors does not always hold true

- omitted almost all of the standard literature on the history of imperialism and post-colonialism, world-systems, underdevelopment or socio-economic change over the last five hundred years

- The European empires of conquest in Asia, especially those of the British in India and the Dutch in Java, were not based on clear technological superiority in armaments, nor on the spread of disease

- Logically it is questionable to try to explain the temporary dominance of particular societies by "permanent" features such as geography (permanent relative to historical timescales; on geological times scales geography is not permanent)

- Diamond's emphasis on the advantage of an "East-West axis" over a "North-South axis" is at best an over-simplification: parts of Eurasia at similar latitudes have very different climates

 

[TBD]

Sounds like an interesting topic. Will read later.

 

[blackzeus]

What you need breh? Racism a history and Basil Davidson's Africa series really put me on to the whole idea of slavery and race from a historical context. I also suggest reading books about African history such as "Africans a history of a continent" or the UNESCO Africa encyclopaedias. You'll learn a lot and its all FREE

Volume II - Ancient civilizations of Africa | United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization

I already mentioned another book called "race and slavery in the middle east" you'll get information in there about how Arabs viewed blacks and whites during the West Asian-African slave trade. Also check out "encyclopedia of blacks in european history and culture" you'll learn about how Africans influenced the development of European culture and history. Also if you're curious to learn about Africa you can check out the BBC series "Lost kingdoms of Africa"




We have to be very careful with the term "enslaving". blacks weren't just sitting around and then got overwhelmed and taken into slavery. But you're right, there were already slave holding black societies because slavery was an institution that was pretty common in Africa, west Asia and the Mediterranean. The thing about black slaves though that sticks in peoples minds is the way they were treated, especially by Europeans. Slavery itself was definitely wrong and racism came about as a result of slavery and its something we're still struggling to undo because like you said its all about money and power. Its advantageous for rich white people to have blacks fighting with poor whites and even fighting with each other(light skin v dark skin who is a tom and who isn't etc.) If people are too busy arguing over inane nonsense then the people at the top won't be challenged. People are starting to peep game though and realize that excluding people from obtaining employment reduces the amount competition and of innovation and progress within society. We've still got a long way to go but I'm a bit optimistic. I hope to see white supremacy dismantled by the time I have grand children.

On a worldwide scale, you are already seeing it happening. A big time british businessman got murked in the China, and the UK did nothing about it. 100-200 years ago, best believe, mad Chinese would have got murked for that. Europeans now going to South America to get jobs 'cause they can't find any. More wealth being created in Singapore and Hong Kong than Switzerland. Even in regards to the ultimate phallic symbol of cac dominance, the skyscraper, the tallest one doesn't exist in a "western" or cac country. But in all honesty, one of the biggest problems with my people, and understandably so, is that they worry too much about what white people think or what white people are doing. You want power? Get education. Get a job, or start a small business. Save. Leave something for your children. Then 2-3 generations from now, you get another Black Wall St ( cacs destroyed it, whitey evil )

 

[Shogun]

So yall truly believe that when the "white supremacy" (your words) in our world is dismantled mankind will finally achieve peace, happiness, and prosperity?

 

[zerozero]

native americans are fond of calling whites devils too. its an experience thing.

 

[Scustin Bieburr]

So yall truly believe that when the "white supremacy" (your words) in our world is dismantled mankind will finally achieve peace, happiness, and prosperity?

To put it bluntly: Sort of.

White supremacy basically makes everything that isn't white wrong. You have people in Africa wearing suits in 30 degree celsius weather or wearing perms. In Asia you have people buying skin whitening creams and blue and green contacts

In the west, the standard of beauty is a white one. The most successful black female entertainers tend to look as white as possible. Blacks struggle to make it in hollywood, hell if it hasn't for spike lee Halle berry wouldn't get any shine. If white supremacy is gone and we begin to have a GLOBAL culture then societies will improve because when more people are allowed to compete it benefits us. Look at the media. There was a study done where white kids when they watched TV, their self-esteem remained the same or got better.

Why? because they get the feeling that their skin color doesn't limit them. When black kids watched TV their self esteem was worsened. We don't have enough positive images of us on TV and movies. Why? because whites want to see us as clowns and people who are at the bottom of the barrel so they can feel better about themselves. They can always say "well at least I'm not black". That shyt needs to end. When that ends you'll see black people working harder without thinking "whats the point?" think about this: If marijuana was legalized, Deshawn from Harlem could end up a millionaire because he may not have formal training but he knows how to run a business and how to delegate. He could be the bill gates of weed.

If Ladarius from Bedstuy was able to get hired regardless of his name, he could build work experience and if his boss didn't think black people were inferior(because again, blacks are misrepresented in history and in the media) the boss would trust Ladarius and he would eventually end up in a management position.

If you meet a man or woman that is a fantastic person and who you have a lot in common with, his her race will not be a factor on whether you two will date. Thats how the world should work. Your kids shouldn't be denied friendship because they are black. Your kids shouldn't be bullied because they have "nappy hair", light and dark skinned people should not be fighting over who is closer to the white man. Black, brown, yellow, tan, none of it should be something to be ashamed of. If race stops being a barrier then people will be able to improve(I mean remember, egypt was a multiracial society and so was Rome.) How the fukk were our ancestors more progressive than we are in that respect?!

 

[Shogun]

To put it bluntly: Sort of.

White supremacy basically makes everything that isn't white wrong...

First off, props on that post.

There's definitely no way to argue with your points. White dominance has definitely unleashed a unique brand of evil on the world. I can't dispute that.

But I will say this...

The Eurocentric brand of evil will most likely just be replaced, rather than erased. When the time comes for the European grip to loosen on the world, it only seems realistic that another force will take hold. Time and again humans of all races have proved that power inevitably leads to greed and corruption.

When you take stock of possible cultural leaders of the world for the future, I don't think there is one that you could honestly say wouldn't be detrimental to others in their own best interest.

None of us really know, but it seems unlikely.

The grass is always greener...

 

[Majestyx]

man, i'm so surprised some nikka from the locker room hasnt come in here and said...

"but white women are angels "

 

[theworldismine13]

the problem with calling white people devils is that it distracts you from all the other fuked sh*t that other people have done, if you use it as an insult or figure of speech that's fine but its not historically accurate

it was the nation of islam tha popularized it but it was the nation of islam that convinced black people that they should change their slave name to an arab name, but it turns out the arabs have a longer history of enslaving black people than the european, how are arabs not devils also?