Where is the big Trump/Impeachment thread? I don't see it.

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Cause and effect. :ehh:
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Facts :mjlolhairfade:

I mean, look at how quickly his position flips:








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:wow:
Those Receipts.

If Trump weren't so corrupt and under investigation I wouldn't know who Louise Mensch is :troll:.
Nap would have have been banned long ago. :mjgrin:

And the president wouldn't spend a day floating the idea that he's above the law. :mjcry:

And that's all in 24 hours. :pachaha:


Despite your desire to believe otherwise CA, collusion, and Trump have normalized a vast array of lies, whataboutism, anti-intellectual, increased overt racism, that I've had to deal with in some way at least every week or multiple times a day depending on how much I want to disengage from the world. :ufdup:


That said, Trump president actually affects all of us and the Russia investigation is based on foreign governments attacking and attempting to (possibly succeeding) on undermining American elections and politics. That's because we even get to collusion.:sas1:


Certainly more than tangible impact on our lives than Hillary Clinton ever has. :sas2:
 

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:what: because he changed the topic from the russia investigation to living in trump's america. those are two completely different things

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You asked me what changed between 2016 and now. Stop taking dabs and posting on the coli. Take a nap. :mjgrin:
Don't ask me how :wow:

im not saying it hasn't, im curious. what's different now than 2016
 

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You asked me what changed between 2016 and now. Stop taking dabs and posting on the coli. Take a nap. :mjgrin:
Don't ask me how :wow:
Cause and effect. :ehh:
ok :ehh: because i believe hillary lost fair and square

so i dont conflate russia with how you feel that the country has changed since 2016, and your experiences. as long as you know that me brushing off russia isnt me also brushing off that trump has enabled a lot of racist behavior

see this:

"Trump have normalized a vast array of lies, whataboutism, anti-intellectual, increased overt racism, that I've had to deal with in some way at least every week or multiple times a day depending on how much I want to disengage from the world. "

i dont associate that with russia, but i certainly don't deny that it's true
 

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ok :ehh: because i believe hillary lost fair and square

so i dont conflate russia with how you feel that the country has changed since 2016, and your experiences. as long as you know that me brushing off russia isnt me also brushing off that trump has enabled a lot of racist behavior
Racists don't conflate police brutality with skin color either. Doesn't make them correct. :sas2:

Interestingly, the Trump campaign themselves credited CA with their win.

https://thinkprogress.org/trump-brags-about-cambridge-analytica-tweet-299aad145af9/
 

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I think there are a lot of factors that should have caused Trump to lose.

Unlike you I can attribute them all to him becoming president instead of only accepting the one that fits my narrative.
he became president for several reasons. most of them bad, but none of them russia

in my cracker opinion, of course :ehh:
 

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no one who matters. paul manafort doesnt matter :heh: cohen doesnt matter

that list that YOU laid out, those people matter. and id love to see them go to jail :yeshrug: not sure why you act like im rooting for them

actually i wanna ask the same question i asked james. do you think that trump would have gotten elected if russia didn't exist?
 

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no one who matters


paul manafort doesnt matter :heh: cohen doesnt matter

Believe Trump's former campaign manager being hit with a felony "Conspiracy Against the United States" charge doesn't matter, brehs

Believe Trump's personal lawyer who coordinated the Trump Tower Moscow project doesn't matter, brehs

On what basis do you so confidently state that Manafort and Cohen "don't matter"?

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that list that YOU laid out, those people matter. and id love to see them go to jail

I believe they will be jailed, but it's no small step to indict those I listed. I certainly don't think that's going to happen in the next 5-6 months, unless something really damning comes out.

actually i wanna ask the same question i asked james. do you think that trump would have gotten elected if russia didn't exist?

Short answer: No.

Long answer: There were many factors involved in Trump's election, but white racism and conspiracy theories about Democrats were two of the main drives for Trump voters. It's not a coincidence that Russia (and Israel, not surprisingly) realized that.

This doesn't mean votes were altered--I fully believe America is that racist without interference--but Russia's meddling started over a decade ago by building rapport with right-wing politicians, pundits, and media influencers. They played on the insecurities of white conservatives to drive their narratives in the West.
 
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