where is ****-Z tribute song to Trayvon?

[DanielAlfredsson]

Why point him out? He's a 43 year old man...

Where are all the songs from n1ggas Trayvon's age?

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To play devil's advocate, isn't it up to the OGs in the game (and life) to lead this charge and lay the groundwork for change?

 

[OG Talk]

To play devil's advocate, isn't it up to the OGs in the game (and life) to lead this charge and lay the groundwork for change?

Yeah he shouldn't be totally absolved (neither should you or I)...Just saying he shouldn't be singled out either...

 

[I AM WE ARE]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbCehL-B32w]Plies - We Are Trayvon [Music Video] - YouTube[/ame]


i hope you weren't waiting on something better than this

 

[jerzboy]

I'm a fan of his music, but if you're waiting for Jay-Z to become someone who takes a stand for social issues, you're going to be waiting forever. I just don't see that happening.

That's not who he is. Which isn't to say he doesn't care, but I don't think he's comfortable in that space. He'll make his little comments in his raps here or there, but really, they're all surface things.

Plus, he's way too tied into big business (aka White America) to really throw shots at the system in a meaningful way.

Say what you want about 'Ye, that he's a simp for wifing a known slut, that he's an egomaniac, baby for dealing with paparazzi the way he has, etc.

Dude seems to give a fukk about shyt, and has unquestionably left a whole lot of $ on the table as a result.

I agree with the majority of what you said. Although I truthfully doubt Jay even cares. Unless its something that benefits him monetarily, I can't see him giving a shyt.

He's a true capitalist... Nothing wrong with that. I just hope he knows that it does affect him as an artist in the long run.... Off topic, but most people look at Jay as a great businessman and not necessarily a great artist.

All GREAT musicians/artist have made a stance on some social issues.. While we shouldn't look for celebs to tackle every social issue or look for them as role models, they do represent a voice for something and someone that can't be heard.. They didn't ask for it, but it's something that comes with the territory.

 

[samtalksradio]

jiggle warriors already making excuses. the reason why I am asking for Jay to make a tribute song, because he supposedly is the number one rapper he could at least speak on the injustice of this racist justice system of America. but he rather take trips to Paris to suck the white mans dikk, then think about his own people. that is the problem with blacks, hip hop, in rappers today don't want to speak on anything real anymore, if it aint about partying and b*******, if it don't make dollars it don't make sense. what happened to the days of ice cube 2 pac these people would be speaking up for this b*******, but the supposedly, the best rapper alive cant say nothing get the f*** out of here, this is exactly why these cracks keep disrespecting us you n***** are too comfortable.

 

[Rem]

I agree with the majority of what you said. Although I truthfully doubt Jay even cares. Unless its something that benefits him monetarily, I can't see him giving a shyt.

He's a true capitalist... Nothing wrong with that. I just hope he knows that it does affect him as an artist in the long run.... Off topic, but most people look at Jay as a great businessman and not necessarily a great artist.

All GREAT musicians/artist have made a stance on some social issues.. While we shouldn't look for celebs to tackle every social issue or look for them as role models, they do represent a voice for something and someone that can't be heard.. They didn't ask for it, but it's something that comes with the territory.

Making a stance on social issues as you put it, doesn't make anywhere near as much impact as what is actually being done in these communities outside of music. What foundations have they got going on to tackle the low standard of education and the likes..?

These are the REAL ISSUES, anybody can write a half heartfelt lyric about some social issue (that most non-retarded people know about) to score some "cool" points, the people making the real difference are the Kofi Annans of this world, not Lupe fiasco or any of these "Conscious" rappers' 16 bars, at least not compared to the people who are actually out there in the field.

 

[samtalksradio]

I agree with the majority of what you said. Although I truthfully doubt Jay even cares. Unless its something that benefits him monetarily, I can't see him giving a shyt.

He's a true capitalist... Nothing wrong with that. I just hope he knows that it does affect him as an artist in the long run.... Off topic, but most people look at Jay as a great businessman and not necessarily a great artist.

All GREAT musicians/artist have made a stance on some social issues.. While we shouldn't look for celebs to tackle every social issue or look for them as role models, they do represent a voice for something and someone that can't be heard.. They didn't ask for it, but it's something that comes with the territory.

thank you my brother that what I'm saying, the fact that a 43 year old men subject matter doesn't reach beyond how rich he is is pathetic in itself. dis n**** J is old enough to speak on things like this, he already has the money, so I don't understand why he doesn't speak up this is why to me Jay Z could never be the greatest. great artist speak on various topics this n**** has been on the same b******* for 15 plus years. it's time for the camel to grow up, but Who Am I kidding, as long as he has a bunch a dikk riders on his side I guess he can get away with being an Uncle Tom.

 

[blackslash]

thank you my brother that what I'm saying, the fact that a 43 year old men subject matter doesn't reach beyond how rich he is is pathetic in itself. dis n**** J is old enough to speak on things like this, he already has the money, so I don't understand why he doesn't speak up this is why to me Jay Z could never be the greatest. great artist speak on various topics this n**** has been on the same b******* for 15 plus years. it's time for the camel to grow up, but Who Am I kidding, as long as he has a bunch a dikk riders on his side I guess he can get away with being an Uncle Tom.

Fakket

Arm leg leg arm head this is godbody


Fakket

 

[AV Dicey]

I'm a fan of his music, but if you're waiting for Jay-Z to become someone who takes a stand for social issues, you're going to be waiting forever. I just don't see that happening.

That's not who he is. Which isn't to say he doesn't care, but I don't think he's comfortable in that space. He'll make his little comments in his raps here or there, but really, they're all surface things.

Plus, he's way too tied into big business (aka White America) to really throw shots at the system in a meaningful way.

Say what you want about 'Ye, that he's a simp for wifing a known slut, that he's an egomaniac, baby for dealing with paparazzi the way he has, etc.

Dude seems to give a fukk about shyt, and has unquestionably left a whole lot of $ on the table as a result.

he made 'minority report', the album version was a fukking great song too, produced by dre, hook by the balding r n b sanger, message Katrina, they left his folks abandoned!

 

[SunZoo]

So people can call him an ambulance chaser?

I mean you already got people saying that he hasn't said anything (yet, I mind you) because of his sponsors or some other bullshyt like that as if it's going to hurt his pockets to speak on it, you same clowns would just say he's trying to capitalize on it, ala "occupy all streets", call him corny and phony for "minority report"...yall gonna be mad either way.

 

[mozichrome]

again, that feeling yall got that celebs NEED to do something is funny

 

[OG Talk]

again, that feeling yall got that celebs NEED to do something is funny

I know nobody cares, but stuff like this is stated in the Zulu Nation by-laws...

THE 5TH ELEMENT OF HIP HOP CULTURE
KNOWLEDGE, CULTURE, OVERSTANDING
FACTOLOGY VS. BELIEFS

Hip Hop is the Vehicle to Deliver Innumerable Lessons! Afrika Bambaataa doesn't believe that Hip Hop heads should just have knowledge of Hip Hop. He promotes and proves that Hip Hop can be used as a vehicle for teaching awareness, knowledge, wisdom, understanding, freedom, justice, equality, peace, unity, love, respect, responsibility and recreation, overcoming challenges, economics, mathematics. science, life, truth, facts and faith

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[jerzboy]

Making a stance on social issues as you put it, doesn't make anywhere near as much impact as what is actually being done in these communities outside of music. What foundations have they got going on to tackle the low standard of education and the likes..?

These are the REAL ISSUES, anybody can write a half heartfelt lyric about some social issue (that most non-retarded people know about) to score some "cool" points, the people making the real difference are the Kofi Annans of this world, not Lupe fiasco or any of these "Conscious" rappers' 16 bars, at least not compared to the people who are actually out there in the field.

I completely hear what your saying. AND I agree. BTW, never put Lupe in the same paragraph when the subject is about Jay, lol.

In my earlier post what I meant by GREATS is not the 1-2 year artist with maybe 3 albums. I'm talking about legitimate legends in their genres. John Lennon, U2 (I hate them), MJ, Bob Marley. All of them at some point in their career have made something with some substance. Something that made people listen and talk.

Again we shouldn't look for celebs to be the voice of reasoning, but at some point we do have to realize the impact that legitimate stars and legends have. Again this does not pertain to Lupe, Mos Def or any of those rappers who's voices aren't heard. They are the "tree that falls in the forest". AND btw, this doesn't have to deal specifically with "black" issues.

 

[mozichrome]

I know nobody cares, but stuff like this is stated in the Zulu Nation by-laws...

THE 5TH ELEMENT OF HIP HOP CULTURE
KNOWLEDGE, CULTURE, OVERSTANDING
FACTOLOGY VS. BELIEFS

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jay-z drops 1 song or a freestyle or a verse here, then what?
whats suppose to happen next

 

[Jayson_bourn]

Honestly though he'll probably drop his opinion on it in a verse somewhere down the line. (like minority report) But if you're waiting for him to release a song this week Its probably not gonna happen.

Thread sounds like it has more to do with your hate for Jay-Z and less to do with Tray.



Use tragic events to validate your opinions on rappers brehs.