Where White Man Went Wrong :banderas:

[Box Cutta]

Well for all who agree with him, what's stopping you from living that way? There are plenty of places in the world(and in the US) that the evil cac civilization hasn't yet touched, you know.

Why shoot the breeze about it, when you can be about it?

Just because people dislike the destruction of Native American life doesn't mean that we want to live in the woods.

The guy was saying that white people destroyed his peoples lifestyle. I don't think there is much to argue in that.

 

[itsyoung!!]

Just because people dislike the destruction of Native American life doesn't mean that we want to live in the woods.

The guy was saying that white people destroyed his peoples lifestyle. I don't think there is much to argue in that.

I cant even comprehend how some one is arguing anything in this thread

 

[YouMadd?]

Well for all who agree with him, what's stopping you from living that way? There are plenty of places in the world(and in the US) that the evil cac civilization hasn't yet touched, you know.

Why shoot the breeze about it, when you can be about it?

The world gets smaller and smaller, everyday, especially in America..... Everything is being consolidated to the point where even the bushman in Africa can be affected by decisions made by a few "white guys in suits" on the other side of the planet...

In essence, your suggestion makes sense, but nowadays, You'll get affected one way or another, Unless you are just insanely wealthy and can really find a place to disappear to.

 

[Mr. Pink]

Just because people dislike the destruction of Native American life doesn't mean that we want to live in the woods.

The guy was saying that white people destroyed his peoples lifestyle. I don't think there is much to argue in that.

Come on breh. Don't be disingenuous. Of course the genocide of the Native Americans was wrong. No sane person would argue otherwise. But that is not what the thread was about. Almost everyone who chimed in was on some "yeah those were the days!" shyt, and agreeing with the Chief that the hunter/gatherer society was superior to modern civilization.

To be honest I know most of it is just thinly veiled cac hate, and that's fine. But just in case anyone here actually buys into this romanticized notion, do yourselves a favor and quickly disabuse yourselves of it. The hunter/gatherer lifestyle is not what it's cracked up to be. I feel silly even having to state this...

 

[itsyoung!!]

Come on breh. Don't be disingenuous. Of course the genocide of the Native Americans was wrong. No sane person would argue otherwise. But that is not what the thread was about. Almost everyone who chimed in was on some "yeah those were the days!" shyt, and agreeing with the Chief that the hunter/gatherer society was superior to modern civilization.

To be honest I know most of it is just thinly veiled cac hate, and that's fine. But just in case anyone here actually buys into this romanticized notion, do yourselves a favor and quickly disabuse yourselves of it. The hunter/gatherer lifestyle is not what it's cracked up to be. I feel silly even having to state this...

so all you got from the newspaper clip is that people want to hunt and gather

 

[Mr. Pink]

so all you got from the newspaper clip is that people want to hunt and gather

Stop embarassing yourself.

 

[itsyoung!!]

Stop embarassing yourself.

all you are bringing up is land and hunting.. what about everything else he said in the newspaper clip ??

 

[Mr. Pink]

all you are bringing up is land and hunting.. what about everything else he said in the newspaper clip ??

Well, what about it?

 

[Dameon Farrow]

Even if it is fake, look at what we have happening in the country now. Might have been on to something.

 

[itsyoung!!]

Well, what about it?

you think you in here dropping knowledge but you aint..

you tlakin about "go out to the land and hunt and skin shyt"

but you aint talkin about the tax and debt free land

talkin about "you can still go to areas of america that arent like every where else"

but when we asked for an example you just said google it

 

[Mr. Pink]

you think you in here dropping knowledge but you aint..

you tlakin about "go out to the land and hunt and skin shyt"

but you aint talkin about the tax and debt free land

And you're in here thinking you're smart but you aren't.

Firstly, your mistake with this thread was laying the blame solely at the white man's feet, but taxes and property weren't invented and aren't exclusive to white people, are they? The fact is that taxes and property rights(along with marriage and religion) were the bedrocks of every successfuly civilization. They are axiomatic.

Secondly, what I said was true. If you want to live Native American style, you still can. Go off into the middle of nowhere, set up a tent and live off the land. As long as you don't require anything from civilization, no one will bother you, you don't have to pay taxes, and no one will give a shyt about you living on that land because no one owns it.

talkin about "you can still go to areas of america that arent like every where else"

but when we asked for an example you just said google it

First of all, who's "we"? You're the only one who asked for an example because you're the only one who isn't capable of hitting a few keystrokes and finding out for himself(lawd knows who you're gonna live in the wild if you can't even acomplish that). But since you want to split hairs, fine: The Appalachian Mountains, Michigan's Upper Peninsula, The Great Basin, The Everglades, The Pacific Northwest.

There. Plenty to choose from. Now, since the white man's system is so evil, and Chief Two Eagle's system is so great, you are going to move in one of the places I mentioned and live there, right? I mean, there's plenty of game, land, and no taxes. The only thing missing is women, but maybe you can bring a few of the Native American chicks you met on one of your reservation trips with you.

Except they wouldn't go with you because even they probably prefer the evil cac system to their own.

Anyway, good luck.

 

[The_King_of_Everything]

Retarded. Ask that chief what the life expectancy of his tribe was. Ask him about the infant mortality rate.

Shut up bytch

 

[Family Man]

This article is fake but the sentiment is spot on. The white man is a pestilence and a disease to this planet. The CAC has to be one of God's final judgment on the earth.

 

[Elle Driver]

Well for all who agree with him, what's stopping you from living that way? There are plenty of places in the world(and in the US) that the evil cac civilization hasn't yet touched, you know.

Why shoot the breeze about it, when you can be about it?

Ignore the fact that this is obviously about how much better Native Americans were off before the white man came in and committed an even worse genocide than the Holocaust. But yeah, let's ignore that and say "well why don't y'all go to a place in the world and live like that?" which is really akin to "well, if you hate the white man so much why not go back to Africa?"

 

[CrossBones]

Ignore the fact that this is obviously about how much better Native Americans were off before the white man came in and committed an even worse genocide than the Holocaust. But yeah, let's ignore that and say "well why don't y'all go to a place in the world and live like that?" which is really akin to "well, if you hate the white man so much why not go back to Africa?"

its also difficult to rebuild what once was, not only because of the death and destruction to our families and structures (my mothers side is native american), but if you tried to restart this way of living again today, regulation and government codes can (and will try to) shut you down. they need to have their hands in everything you do, and to get a piece of it. thats how it works. you cant even cut your own wood for fire and building purposes without the threat of facing legal problems ...


they say that "the last american man" has been living in a home full of state and health violations. all of that, yet he's been there for 30 yrs. go figure.

theyll even try to shut down a fellow white man because hes not living in a taxed, and regulated state

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...olina-government-adhering-building-codes.html

go live in the woods and find that the government doesnt like it, brehs

if you want to talk about reservations, I guess we'll leave out how theyre empty, worthless, and tend to have something wrong with them in the first place ...


it would also not be easy to recreate the old system out of the new system (that has been put in via genocide, forced taxation and racism) because of the plague its put upon everyones thinking. basically, youre not going to have the same foundational strength that was found in these communities because numbers are low and everybody is forced to live without a proper place to develop. these reservation are not ideal for hunting and gathering. theyre shyt. thus, to live people must live off the government scraps. it kills of the strengths that tribes once had, and it reduces them to being worthless in their own space, only able to livie off what the white man gives out. hmmmm....


nobody today really has the experience that the tribesmen had of their time, which of course stifles everything. the heads have already been cut off, and everyone knows that. everybody is living like theyre prisoners of war, but its not seen that way. the amount of people working together was one of the primary strengths of a tribe, but working together doesnt even happen today since we're all taught to chase money for ourselves and to never build towards a community thats truly independant. so you cant do what you used to do with this new system in place, encouraging everyone that its every man for himself. but when you look at the white man, hes all about legacies, and passing down assets and looking out for his fellow whitey in giving out jobs. hell, welfare was created for whites. sure he gives a lot of advice for someone who has never gotten eradicated and stripped of generations worth of assets, so he must know what hes talking about. the only time that youre only encouraged to work in the underclass is if its for a big company (owned by whites), and never for your own. if everyone woke up and worked towards a community in this new world, obviously things could change.

also one of the important things that tribes did was move about and find new plots of land to live in, depending on the weather, livestock and/or hunting availabilities. thats not very possible in todays world. a lot of urban sprawl has interfered with that style of living. plenty of animals are not even really found in the wild anymore. especially if it produces cash for whites (ie cows and chickens). everything created in this new world interferes with the old ways. its not an accident that anything profitable is taken away from those who could live off it without paying them.

in fact, you need a hunting license to hunt animals. dont let the forest rangers find you killing a dear with your bow, or youll be treated like a felon. you need to pass their building inspections if you want to live outdoors. then expect to have to pay for the privalege of where you are, because theres a high chance that youll still need space/real estate to create a home, yet all of those things are normally taxed and regulated by the government anyways. its not going to be easy to just go back to what it was. anyone who says so isnt paying attention. taxes and regulations are there for a reason. the law is not on your side if you want to make a change.

if anyone thinks that everybody can just go out and start building a new tribe full of hunters and gatherers with no problems from the government, then youre in for a rude surprise. to say nothing of the fact that our hunters and gatherers were killed off generations back, and that the landscape isnt even suitable for all of that anymore.