Where would the black community be had there been no 'Crack Era'?

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I will argue that the prison industrial system hurt the black community more than the crack epedemic.
And also the extreme poverty and lack of job opportunity

But the P.I.C.(Prison Industrial Complex) went in tandem with the crack epidemic. You couldn't have one without the other. One was the driving force for the other, remember the War On Drugs(really the war on black race). Create the problem and then alleviate it.​
 

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Crack era fukked us up on levels you can't even comprehend and the black community ain't been the same since.

There are some of us who can remember when Right On! magazine was a dominant force.

Crack Era values wiped out the black youthful innocence that the kids who grew up on Right On! enjoyed.

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Id say much better off. Sellin crack either got you arrested or killed. But, your enviornment is void of opprotunity, so you do what you got to do.

The children were left to be raised by struggling single mothers whos primary objective was survival, more than anything. The schools that taught those children barely did so, were underfunded etc. So those children were mostly raised by single parents, in drug infested neighboorhoods, in a school system whos best just simply wasnt enough. Making life that much more difficult for the next generation.

Finally, if you werent risking jail or your life by selling it, if your future wasnt put in jeoprady by having literally every odd stacked against you, the last place Crack got us, and perhaps severe, is the actual addiction.

Crack was one the worst things to ever happen to our community, it crippled the generation it was created in and the one after. shyt in the worst parts of the hood you can still see the effects today.
 

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Exactly......

INTERGRATION did more damage to the black community than what the Crack era did...

So many black businesses was lost as Negroes made a campaign to go eat and shop with white folks in the suburbs

Nobody wanted to invest in the community much less buy homes

Paving the way for GENTRIFICATION
Integration didn't destroy Black businesses, competition did.
There's a reason the number of independent businesses across all racial lines in the US began to drop, it was an era change.

Community investment was an issue because of segregation, not due to integration. Unless you're in your 70s, your experience is damn near useless.
Segregation kept Black housing values absolutely in the floor, Black communities in Chicago and Cleveland were mixed-income, but rent and mortgage prices were sky-high, and mobility was limited. The businesses were out of necessity, and the vast majority weren't earning anything more than what your regular factory job could get you.

Gentrification is a phenomenon separate from integration, and is a result of desire and wealth.
 

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I will argue that the prison industrial system hurt the black community more than the crack epedemic.
And also the extreme poverty and lack of job opportunity
This.
They fed into each other. Poverty and lack of access to jobs ----> getting into the game ----> getting prison time disproportionate to your crime ----> not being able to get a job once released -----> back in the game

It wasn't so much crack as the other economic forces, the already breaking families, the federal government and local police forces constantly raiding communities, and the broken education system (which was nearing its success peak right around the time of the "Crack Epidemic."), the epidemic just exacerbated everything.
It helped demonise Black men and women as well (you still see it today, the crack mother/crack baby stereotype combined with the welfare recipient mother stereotype is still in use today, and plenty of shuck and jive posters on this site try to use that and the Moynihan Report as evidence of it).

We'd be in a better position were it not for the crack epidemic. Period.
 

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The thing is the black middle class was destroyed by crack too.
This as well.
Two things that damaged AA wealth in the US post-CRM was the "crack epidemic" and the Great Recession. Both of which halted tremendous progress.
The Black middle class was in a precarious-ass position before it.
Honestly, the response to the "epidemic" is what caused the most damage. The addiction was bad. But the response did more than I can even imagine at this time.
Imagine if cops were literally razing White neighborhoods, shooting families up, arresting Whites by the block, giving out football numbers for possession of heroin, taking away thousands of kids and throwing them into an overburdened foster care system, and all the while neighborhood schools were crumbling and the only image you'd see on television was a smack-addicted White women with a crying baby.
 

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even better, where would the black community be, had there been no integration:francis:
Like South Africa in the 90s.
Divorcing integration from what was happening in the economy and the socio-political sphere of the United States, is a fool's errand.
It leads people to actually claim "we were doing better under segregation." :mjlol:
 
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