Where would you rank ARod all time?

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My problem with the "he was a HOF before steroids" argument is that you never know when he started doing drugs. I mean how do you know if he ever played clean?

He coulda been juicing since HS for all we know
 

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Don't be dense, yes his numbers went down, that's what happens when you get older. YET ... compared to the average player, he was still above-average.
:heh: yeah from one year to the next. Who are you guys fooling?

Went from arguably the best player in the HISTORY of the game to being benched by his manager in the playoffs. Happens all the time.
 

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Hes definitely one of the GOATS but nobody is on the level of the one and only GOAT Big Barry Bonds :salute:
 

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:heh: yeah from one year to the next. Who are you guys fooling?

Went from arguably the best player in the HISTORY of the game to being benched by his manager in the playoffs. Happens all the time.

You're jumping a big deal of time, and that was as much political as it was about level of play. And if MJ on the Wizards gets benched, does that mean he sucks? Your logic is funny. Act like we're discussing a 32 yr. old A-Rod.
 

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Top 5 player I ever saw

I couldn't give a fukk whether he "cheated" or not
 

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You gotta factor in longevity and how great he was in his prime. And then whatever u wanna deduct for the steroids is objective and differs from one person to the next

Jeter and Arod all time are both probably ranked real close to eachother. Nobody woulda said 5 years ago that Jeter is better but because of his longevity and because he didnt take steroids that makes it close in my opinion.
 

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You gotta factor in longevity and how great he was in his prime. And then whatever u wanna deduct for the steroids is objective and differs from one person to the next

Jeter and Arod all time are both probably ranked real close to eachother. Nobody woulda said 5 years ago that Jeter is better but because of his longevity and because he didnt take steroids that makes it close in my opinion.

Jeter is my guy but Arod is much better then Derek in a historical sense
 

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You're jumping a big deal of time, and that was as much political as it was about level of play. And if MJ on the Wizards gets benched, does that mean he sucks? Your logic is funny. Act like we're discussing a 32 yr. old A-Rod.
WTF are you talking about? 2008 to 2010 is a big jump? NO. It's exactly enough time for his body to react and start breaking down because he's no longer on steroids. See, the point some of you are missing is that "age" is a big factor for him moreso because once he stopped saucin, his body "aged" more quickly. Numbers don't lie. Arod does.
 

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WTF are you talking about? 2008 to 2010 is a big jump? NO. It's exactly enough time for his body to react and start breaking down because he's no longer on steroids. See, the point some of you are missing is that "age" is a big factor for him moreso because once he stopped saucin, his body "aged" more quickly. Numbers don't lie. Arod does.

3 years in sports isn't really that short of time for someone to go from best ... to average. Look at Pujols.
 

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I dont care about PEDs

best SS Ive seen, and I was a Cal Ripken stan.

Deffo HOFer
 
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