Which NFL prospect QBs are best under pressure? (article inside)

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People who sit down and breakdown shyt like this to this depth for fun have a different
hobby. Whatever floats their boat tho
plus, don't fukkin tell me its an (article inside) when the first words of the OP are

A poster named "Brown Leader" on a draft prospect forum did a comparative write-up....

:beli: i really DONT care what 'Brown Leader' has to say
 

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but its not an article

its a post by some dude on some forum

right?

And that invalidates how interesting and relevant the piece is? :what:

Who and what do you think ESPN writers are?

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And that invalidates how interesting and relevant the piece is? :what:

Who and what do you think ESPN writers are?

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yeah...it does. A random dude on a forum who, in his words, moved the goalposts to a distance that fit his own argument

I charted 7 games of each of the top QB prospects this year to see how they fared as passers when pressure forced them to move. I disregarded designed roll outs and screens, which require movement. And disregarded run gains from pressure or losses.
Just seven games, no roll outs, and ignored run gains after...because...random forum poster decided as much?

I just don't care man. I have no idea who he is or the validity of what he charted or what he's even trying to say, LET ALONE that it shows "whos the best under pressure"[/quote]
 

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yeah...it does. A random dude on a forum who, in his words, moved the goalposts to a distance that fit his own argument


Just seven games, no roll outs, and ignored run gains after...because...random forum poster decided as much?

I just don't care man. I have no idea who he is or the validity of what he charted or what he's even trying to say, LET ALONE that it shows "whos the best under pressure"
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Brown Leader states the limitations of his study:

"I charted 7 games of each of the top QB prospects this year to see how they fared as passers when pressure forced them to move. I disregarded designed roll outs and screens, which require movement. And disregarded run gains from pressure or losses. I considered "forced off the spot" to be as basic as stepping up or to the side of actual pressure or as complete as running out of the pocket from actual pressure."

He only wanted to look at how the QBs fared as passers forced to move from a statitionary pocket position; that reasonably excludes rollouts and screens, which don't predict anything anyway. Seven games is a small sample size, but the data seems to agree with the general census that Bridgewater is the most consistently accurate QB under pressure and Manziel has the most down field plays. If you took a second to actually consider the implications, rather than dismissing the study outright, you might learn something.
 

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The hobby is sports analysis and draftniking, and if you're into sports--which itself is a hobby--why not get some education and know what you're talking. Everybody has hobbies: some people like to smoke weed and gossip bout Nicki Minaj, other people like to talk about draft projections. Get yours and fohh.

:stopitslime: take it down a notch. I didn't say good or bad hobby i said different. I mean to watch and talk sports and do a little digging up info is cool. but going to the level that some of these "draftniks" go through is a little strange to me. I mean I don't see what someone gets out of it going back and watching games to chart where a QB moves in the pocket? just to say it on the internet :heh: that's a bit pathetic

yeah...it does. A random dude on a forum who, in his words, moved the goalposts to a distance that fit his own argument


Just seven games, no roll outs, and ignored run gains after...because...random forum poster decided as much?

I just don't care man. I have no idea who he is or the validity of what he charted or what he's even trying to say, LET ALONE that it shows "whos the best under pressure"
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We both know that if Bortles or McCarron or Manziel were deemed the best by Brown Leader and not Bridgewater this thread is never made and Brown Leader is just another internet poster.
 

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:stopitslime: take it down a notch. I didn't say good or bad hobby i said different. I mean to watch and talk sports and do a little digging up info is cool. but going to the level that some of these "draftniks" go through is a little strange to me. I mean I don't see what someone gets out of it going back and watching games to chart where a QB moves in the pocket? just to say it on the internet :heh: that's a bit pathetic

It's hilarious that an idiot like you would try to attack someone for posting sports statistics and analysis on a sports forum. I guess life loses meaning for you when you aren't taking about gossip and fakkitry. As if anything you say matters :russ:

fukk outta here, :camby:

We both know that if Bortles or McCarron or Manziel were deemed the best by Brown Leader and not Bridgewater this thread is never made and Brown Leader is just another internet poster.

You are blatantly misrepresenting my views :stopitslime: . I would have posted this article regardless of Bridgewater's inclusion. I was actually a huge Bortles fan until I saw his atrocious deep ball. But I've defended him in debates and recently made a thread about Jimmy Garropollo.
 
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It's hilarious that an idiot like you would try to attack someone for posting sports statistics and analysis on a sports forum. I guess life loses meaning for you when you aren't taking about gossip and fakkitry. As if anything you say matters :russ:

fukk outta here, :camby:



You are blatantly misrepresenting my views :stopitslime: . I would have posted this article regardless of Bridgewater's inclusion. I was actually a huge Bortles fan until I saw his atrocious deep ball. But I've defended him in debates and recently made a thread about Jimmy Garropollo.

i'm an idiot...ok :rudy: you're a race jumping the world is ending cause Mel Kiper said this ass nikka. Stop defending some dude who sits in his basement playing Mike Mayock coming up with useless information, nobody wants to hear that shyt in everyday convo. It's pathetic.
my posting shyts on yours. even my enemies appreciate me. you on the other hand....I got nothing cause you aren't on that level yet.

and everything I've seen from you has been with a pro Teddy agenda like you getting part of his contract. That's the majority that I've seen you post in these threads. Now go scour the net for a pro Manziel analysis messageboard member 47 wrote last Tuesday cause that opinion and analysis is held in such high regard
 

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i'm an idiot...ok :rudy: you're a race jumping the world is ending cause Mel Kiper said this ass nikka.

Yeah, just throw a bunch of random words together and think you're making sense. Race jumping? I guess mentioning Teddy in my posts is race baiting to you. Real talk, I don't give a fukk if you think it is or not :mjlol:. Dead that

Mel Kiper? Rush Limbaugh? The Illuminati? You have no clue if I listen or follow any one of these people or trends (I don't). But keep whining like the bytch made fakkit you are. :russ:

Stop defending some dude who sits in his basement playing Mike Mayock coming up with useless information, nobody wants to hear that shyt in everyday convo. It's pathetic.

I don't need to defend somethin that doesn't need defending. The only useless one here is you. All you need to know is that I'd trade your bytch ass life for a higher draft pick :troll:

my posting shyts on yours. even my enemies appreciate me. you on the other hand....I got nothing cause you aren't on that level yet.

Look at this fukking loser bragging about his life as a coli fukkboy. Your level is the bottom of my boot:mjlol:



and everything I've seen from you has been with a pro Teddy agenda like you getting part of his contract. That's the majority that I've seen you post in these threads. Now go scour the net for a pro Manziel analysis messageboard member 47 wrote last Tuesday cause that opinion and analysis is held in such high regard

I don't give a fukk what you've seen of me. I don't give a fukk what you think of my posting and what bores you. I'm going to keep posting draft information I find interesting. I'm going to keep posting about Teddy and I'm gone keep calling you a bytch. fukk you mean
 
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Yeah, just throw a bunch of random words together and think you're making sense. Race jumping? I guess mentioning Teddy in my posts is race baiting to you. Real talk, I don't give a fukk if you think it is or not :mjlol:. Dead that

Mel Kiper? Rush Limbaugh? The Illuminati? You have no clue if I listen or follow any one of these people or trends (I don't). But keep whining like the bytch made fakkit you are. :russ:



I don't need to defend somethin that doesn't need defending. The only useless one here is you. All you need to know is that I'd trade your bytch ass life for a higher draft pick :troll:



Look at this fukking loser bragging about his life as a coli fukkboy. Your level is the bottom of my boot:mjlol:





I don't give a fukk what you've seen of me. I don't give a fukk what you think of my posting and what bores you. I'm going to keep posting draft information I find interesting. I'm going to keep posting about Teddy and I'm gone keep calling you a bytch. fukk you mean

you are race obsessed :comeon:
and if you're gonna do something might as well be good at it including posting on the internet :win:
 
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