Which star has the most pressure on them this postseason?

[chuckifubuck]

Lets put it as simple as possible.


If Melo loses in the first round, people will make fun of him but they won't be talking about how melo's all time standing is jeopardized.


If Lebron does anything other than win the title, every single espn pundit and sportswriter for the next year will be questioning his place in history. heck, even if they won the title next year he'd still be getting questioned because he lost 3 finals.

All those other players that you talk about that won a ring and so people backed off them (like Wade after 06 and Dirk after 11) weren't being talked about as one of the GOATS and being compared to MJ. Its completely different levels of pressure.


Like I and other dudes have said. Melo gets one ring and he's set for the rest of his career. Lebron retires with one and the media would look at him as a failure.

 

[TheNig]

For real tho... What y'all nikkas talking about?

 

[Street Knowledge]

T-Mac

 

[FTBS]

Where in history has this happened? SHOW ME:

- the most publicized/hyped high school sports player in history
- one of the most scrutinized players in the history of sports - everything single thing he has done has been under the microscope
- his 'Decision' was watched by 9.9 million viewers
- 1000000000000000000000000000000 articles/pieces/talkshow topics/sport-related medium's etc etc covered/analysed his failures from Cleveland to Miami
- had all different types of groups outside the 'immediate sports world' criticizing him
- left hundreds of thousands of people in an area, act as if their Pops was running out on them
- every single lil' thing he said was a talking point, even to the point of being blown out of proportion (e.g. 'Not 2, not 3, not 4, not 5, not 6, not 7.')
- had sports writers moonlighting as Dr. Phils, psycho-analysing James and the effects that coddling had on him and the mental-barriers in life that stood in his way of progressing as a player: "James would throw a bowl of fries back at a renowned chef and bark, “They’re cold!” Or throw his sweaty practice jersey across the court and command a team administrator to go pick it up. Everyone wants James to grow out of it, but he’s never showed much of an inclination for self-examination and improvement."

Show me an instance in history, that mirrors this. If you can't than there's no point in giving these tired ass comparisons. The truth is he won't get immunity for not winning a championship this season, far too much has happened and the state of the league; that the only way he's going to avoid any criticism - is to win the championship. Can the same be said for Melo?

This championship-pressure has been built up for years and it will only significantly subside once he has MULTIPLE rings and he's no longer the best player with the best team.



There's no straws left for you to clutch. Your shyt is bordering on stupidity right about now. Bron only has to coast through the entire playoffs to win a title, yet Melo has to play his ass off to get past the 1st round? I've heard it all.

Don't you realise that Bron is the main playmaker for that team?
Don't you realise that Bron is the defensive anchor for that team?
Don't you realise that Bron is the leading scorer on that team?
Don't you realise Bron is the closer of that team?
Don't you realise that every single area that revolves around that team is dependent on Bron carrying them?

You're deluded if you think Bron won't have to bust his ass in the playoffs for the Heat to win a championship, there'll be more times he has to go beyond the standard-calling to dig his team out of holes, than Melo will in the first round. I'mma up this shyt when the Heat are struggling to close out a team in the playoffs.

The problem with your line of thinking is that, if were to take everything as it stands now with Bron and the Heat: a legitimate case could only be made for Melo having more pressure in the playoffs - if the Knicks were better or equal as a team and Melo was looked at as the 'best player in the league' and the Knicks season was basically championship-or-bust. Only then would he have a case for having more pressure, but as it stands now, the Knicks have NO pressure of winning a title and Melo isn't close to being better than Bron.

You still haven't answered the question of: "Who out of Melo and Bron has the most pressure with their respective teams to win the championship this season?"

All that shyt you listed is no longer relevant because he has a ring now. When the Decision backlash was in full swing I was predicting that Bron would get fellated the moment he got a ring. The championship pressure subsided the moment he got a ring. Let you tell it the pressure won't be gone until he gets 10 rings.

I need nikkas to make up their minds. Either Bron is on a stacked team and has no excuses for losing because he has so much help OR he's gotta do everything for them to win. You can't have it both ways.

To answer you question again, Melo would have more pressure because he would have to do more in order for his team to even come close to winning it all. If Wade and Bosh are healthy and play to their capabilities NOBODY is fukking with Heat. Melo on the other hand will have to ball out just for them to get to the CF and have a competitive series. As I said before pressure is about more than expectations. Even to that point Bron's chances of getting a pass in the event that his team loses are higher this year than they have been since 07. I can see Wade or Bosh or Spo catching heat if the Heat lose. Who else on the Knicks (regardless of actual performance) is in line to catch it if they lose?

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

All that shyt you listed is no longer relevant because he has a ring now.

Naw, it's all relevant. Because all that pressure/expectations wasn't stipulated on Bron winning JUST one ring. You're deluded if you think it did. If Bron doesn't win another ring, shyt will be held against him forever.

When the Decision backlash was in full swing I was predicting that Bron would get fellated the moment he got a ring.

Congratulations on predicting common sense.

The championship pressure subsided the moment he got a ring. Let you tell it the pressure won't be gone until he gets 10 rings.

Only momentarily (through the off-season), he doesn't get a pass for a lifetime for winning one ring. When did I allude to 10 rings or anything of the sort? I said multiple rings, meaning in the time-period that he's the clear cut best player with the clear cut best team. The most pressure will be on him to win. You have no valid argument against what I've posted so you've resulted by hyperbolising my statements to create imaginary vantage points for yourself.

I need nikkas to make up their minds. Either Bron is on a stacked team and has no excuses for losing because he has so much help OR he's gotta do everything for them to win. You can't have it both ways.

WRONG.

Those two can both co-exist. He's gotta do everything for them in that, he's the main cog on offense and defense (leading them in all areas: playmaking, scoring, defense etc etc). He directs and stars on both sides of the court. The help are complimentary pieces. Without him they don't have a chance of winning a title. He doesn't have any excuses for losing, not just because he has the help, but because he's head and shoulders above everybody else in the league. In order for them to be successful, he's gotta do everything for them.

To answer you question again, Melo would have more pressure because he would have to do more in order for his team to even come close to winning it all. If Wade and Bosh are healthy and play to their capabilities NOBODY is fukking with Heat. Melo on the other hand will have to ball out just for them to get to the CF and have a competitive series. As I said before pressure is about more than expectations. Even to that point Bron's chances of getting a pass in the event that his team loses are higher this year than they have been since 07.

How does Melo have more pressure than Bron to win a title, when basically NOBODY is expecting him to make it into the finals? You're projecting this unrealistic situation of Melo, in that he has pressure to win a title THIS SEASON. We're not talking bout next season, or when Melo has a better supporting cast. Right now, there's no pressure on him to win a championship. Melo's not in a position to win a title, to have any amount of pressure that Bron has. Where's the media talk about Melo winning a title this season? Where's the public talk bout Melo winning a title this season? There isn't any. If the Knicks make it to the ECF - they will be looked at as a success. Miami will only be looked at as a success if they win the title.

I can see Wade or Bosh or Spo catching heat if the Heat lose. Who else on the Knicks (regardless of actual performance) is in line to catch it if they lose?

Why would Wade catch more heat over Bron if the Heat lose when he has more rings than Bron? That literally goes against your logic of "the pressures on the guys who haven't won and the players with rings get passes". Why would Bosh catch more heat when he has one ring just like Bron?

The media/public can turn on Bron just as quickly, if he doesn't win this season.

Are you gonna sit there and tell me with a straight face that there's no CHANCE at all of the media/public using the past to throw shyt on Bron if he doesn't win this season? Everybody's just gonna completely ignore Bron's fault in his OWN legacy and dish the blame out on Wade and Bosh? That everybody will use the excuse 'oh it's his team's fault on why he isn't ranked next to Magic, Bird, Kobe, MJ. You can't blame Lebron he's already got a ring'? Do you honestly think folk are gonna use that line of thinking? No one's gonna use the "not 2, not 3, not 4, not 5" against Bron? No one's gonna use anything that Bron said or did up to this point as ammunition to shyt on him?

 

[FreshFromATL]

Josh "I'm a Max player" Smith

He's the only nikka that's got big money riding on his performance. Everybody else already paid.

 

[-DMP-]

T-Mac

damn, took my answer

-DMP-

 

[23Barrettcity]

Josh "I'm a Max player" Smith

He's the only nikka that's got big money riding on his performance. Everybody else already paid.

Too bad you can't post about it .. I'll miss you no homo ..... No I won't

 

[OG Talk]

Melo has such low expectations... He could get swept in the first round and nothing would change..

CP3 plays for arguably the worst franchise in the history of sports.. Folks are just amazed that they can appear in back to back playoff series..The Clippers name on the front of his jersey saves him..

Lebron is Peyton Manning.. Even if he never wins again the monkey is off his back and ain't climbing back on..

KG and Duncan have the excuse of age...

Rose said fukk Chicago and their stalker fans and is gonna chill at home with his newborn while waiting on Jesus to give him a sign that his knee is healthy..

KD and Russ are still young and people realize that they aren't as effective without Harden..

Dwight has a built in excuse with the Nash and Kobe injuries.. Plus he is still hurt himself..


Memphis traded Rudy Gay for loose crack.. Nobody expects them to compete...



So the truth is nobody has any "pressure" this year.. Just enjoy the games and stop worrying about creating these bullshyt Skip Bayless narratives that nobody cared about 5 years ago until you got reprogrammed by social media and the 24 hour sports news cycle..

 

[FreshFromATL]

Too bad you can't post about it .. I'll miss you no homo ..... No I won't

 

[23Barrettcity]

now now no need for all that .

 

[Greenhornet]

these nikkas all lose together

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

So the truth is nobody has any "pressure" this year.. Just enjoy the games and stop worrying about creating these bullshyt Skip Bayless narratives that nobody cared about 5 years ago until you got reprogrammed by social media and the 24 hour sports news cycle..

That's the whole point. Whether they're bullshyt or not, these narratives have become a reality. I'm not creating anything besides giving FACTUAL evidence of what has been going on over the last aforementioned seasons.

Don't shoot the messenger

 

[bl2k8]

Bron has a ring and a team that's proven it can win a title to fall back on. Melo doesn't. Magic and Bird didn't win every year and there wasn't a referendum on their greatness. As I stated numerous times before Kobe and Shaq didn't win every year and there wasn't a referendum on their greatness. Bron caught more shyt in 2011 than Kobe did in 2011 even though Kobe's squad got swept and Bron's squad was in their first year together. Kobe got a complete pass and all you heard about was Pau being soft, Phil retiring, and Dirk's ascension. You gonna act like Kobe's rings had nothing to do with that? I am not saying 2+2=anything. I am saying I know how the media works. The pressure is never on the guys who have won, it's always on the guys who haven't no matter how illogical that is. Just because you would like it to be a certain way or even just because it would make sense for it to be a certain way doesn't mean that's how it will be.

Magic and Bird were getting to the finals every other year, Magic damn 4-5 years straight and winning some em of course he didn't catch Heat.

Kobe ain't catch heat in 2011 because the Lakers were


A. Attempting to do something that hasn't been done since the 80's which is reach the finals for your years straight
B. They were coming of two straight titles
C. Kobe was playing on one leg
D. Pau was playing incredibly soft and had a huge drop off from the year before.

This is the biggest gap between the top team and the rest of the field that there has been in a while.

 

[OG Talk]

Magic and Bird were getting to the finals every other year, Magic damn 4-5 years straight and winning some em of course he didn't catch Heat.

Kobe ain't catch heat in 2011 because the Lakers were


A. Attempting to do something that hasn't been done since the 80's which is reach the finals for your years straight
B. They were coming of two straight titles
C. Kobe was playing on one leg
D. Pau was playing incredibly soft and had a huge drop off from the year before.

This is the biggest gap between the top team and the rest of the field that there has been in a while.

Thats arguable.. But like my man said earlier thats not pressure thats expectation.. It would only be considered pressure if it was a feat that has never been accomplished..

Nobody in the history of the NBA has ever felt pressure to win a second ring...Once you bust your cherry that burden is lifted...Why do you think D-Wade had been given a pass the entire time while Bron was going through it? He had already busted his championship cherry..

Who knows about the pressure of winning more than Pat Riley? These are his thoughts...

This buys us our freedom," Pat Riley says with a smile. "The things that locked them up? They evaporated tonight. Now we grow. Now we evolve. Now comes the fun. This finally allows these players to be free."

If Bron's boss has that type of mentality, who is he feeling pressure from? Sports talk radio? Skip Bayless? Posters on internet message boards?

Naw... He's good....


We've all seen how LeBron looks when he's under pressure...It's well documented..Be honest has anything about his body language, voice, face and actions tell you he's feeling pressure this year?

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