Which star has the most pressure on them this postseason?
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LeBron James' and Kobe Bryant's All-Star Jacket:
Tim Duncan's All-Star Jacket:
Carmelo Anthony's All-Star Jacket:
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Actually there is, I wouldn't say exceptions but Pacers are threats to them and if Rose comes back and magically turns it on then the Bulls too. Funny how you only singled out the seeding and not the other factors I bought up. Just stop it, this bears very little resemblance to what happened with Kobe/Shaq. You're off-key with that comparison.
I never said that's not always the case. But in this case, it clearly doesn't. Like I stated, if neither Melo or Bron win a title this year...... it'll be bron who catches heat. No one is expecting melo to win a title this season, so he basically has less pressure to win one. just about everyone is expecting lebron to win a title, so of course he has to have more pressure to win than melo does.
it's like i'm saying 2+2 = 4 and you're saying 2+2 = 7.5
there's no benefit of the doubt for lebron. he either wins a title or he gets blasted. melo has the benefit of the doubt of getting to the ECF and losing to the heat.
LEBRON = NO EXCEPTIONS FOR LOSING
MELO = EXCEPTION(S) FOR LOSING.
isnt the point of the playoffs to win the championship? so if melo isn't expected to win the title, how the hell does he have the most pressure to win the title?
Bron has a ring and a team that's proven it can win a title to fall back on. Melo doesn't. Magic and Bird didn't win every year and there wasn't a referendum on their greatness. As I stated numerous times before Kobe and Shaq didn't win every year and there wasn't a referendum on their greatness. Bron caught more shyt in 2011 than Kobe did in 2011 even though Kobe's squad got swept and Bron's squad was in their first year together. Kobe got a complete pass and all you heard about was Pau being soft, Phil retiring, and Dirk's ascension. You gonna act like Kobe's rings had nothing to do with that? I am not saying 2+2=anything. I am saying I know how the media works. The pressure is never on the guys who have won, it's always on the guys who haven't no matter how illogical that is. Just because you would like it to be a certain way or even just because it would make sense for it to be a certain way doesn't mean that's how it will be.
All melo really needs is one ring in his career and he'll be good. One championship for lebron is unacceptable given where he's at as a player and the stacked team he's on
The media has also been going on and on about how Lebron is greatest thing ever. He's in now. The heat will be on Spo or Bosh or even Wade if they don't win.
Kobe and Shaq were coming off of 3 straight NBA Titles though......not the same with LeBron
You cant possibly believe LeBron can FINALLY win 1 ring, fail in the very next season with an even BETTER team around him, and he WONT catch heat for it
Kobe was coming off 3 straight in 04, 08, 11, 12? Shaq was coming off 3 straight in 04, 05, 07?
Much like they did with Kobe and Shaq the media will find a way to make it someone else's fault or to just focus on someone else.Melo on the other hand has everything set up to make a deep run. Anything less and he's gonna be in the crosshairs.
Basis?
Gregg PopaBitch
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Kobe.
That literally makes no sense, given Bron's situation. Lebron doesn't just get a pass because he won ONE ring. If the Heat are proven they can win it all and nothing realistically stands in there way, the pressure is on them to continue, is it not? Melo isn't proven, therefore there isn't that weight of championship-or-bust that hangs over his head and the media won't hang it over his head either (this season).
Stop comparing past historical events to the present ones. The media has changed; the coverage is different; the player-stories are different; everything is different.
This right here hurts your argument. Kobe had proven himself, he won MULTPLE rings, he no longer was the best player and he didn't have the best team. Lebron isn't at that stage yet, he's in the midst of his prime with the best team. This is why your comparisons hold no weight whatsoever.
You don't know how the media works. You're blatantly ignoring the last at least 3+ seasons and everything that's revolved around Bron. It's not about how I'd like it a certain way or if I'm trying to make sense out of it, I'm talking reality here. You just keep digging yourself a bigger hole each time with this theory of: the pressure is ALWAYS on the guys who haven't won.
Answer me this: who out of Melo and Bron has the most pressure with their respective teams (taking into account how their teams have performed) to win the championship this season?
Best believe EVERYBODY will have the pitchforks out if Bron doesn't perform up to standard and the Heat fail to win a championship in the playoffs. The media/public hasn't given him immunity because he won one ring.
Unless you have something to back this up, no reason to talk about how he parents
It's Melo
He has a tougher first Round matchup than anybody and will get killed when the celtics eliminate him
He has a tougher first Round matchup than anybody and will get killed when the celtics eliminate him
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LeBron has the most pressure. The Heat are the consensus favorite to win it this year and by far have been the best team this year. The whole Melo needs to get the first round again talk comes from true basketball fans and the NY media. Nobody outside of that circle will pay any mind if he doesn't. Same with CP3, true basketball fans talk about how he's considered top 3-5 and hasn't won yet. But If the Heat don't win the championship with the best player, MVP, having his best season so far, than you'll have people from all over on a much bigger perspective (casual fans, non-fans, every media, etc) chime in on how he 'failed' this season.
The pressure is always on guys that haven't won. I have years of history and numerous examples to support my point. You have your own personal thoughts.
at you acknowldging that nikkas with rings get passes as you are trying to refute the point. "Bu...bu..but they won multiples." I love how people put conditions on shyt to avoid acknowledging the truth. You gotta win a certain number of chips in order to get a pass for an L. According to your logic, all that matters is the expectations for that particular year. Each of the years I listed the Lakers failed to meet the expectation for that season. And in each of those years Kobe got a complete pass while players with lighter hands caught shyt. The thing that most people are missing is that expecations aren't the only part of pressure. The other part of pressure what must be done to meet those expectations. Bron with the squad he has, should honestly be able to coast all the way to a title barring a major injury. Melo on the other hand will have to play his ass off to get past the C's.
The pressure is always on guys that haven't won. I have years of history and numerous examples to support my point. You have your own personal thoughts.
Where in history has this happened? SHOW ME:
- the most publicized/hyped high school sports player in history
- one of the most scrutinized players in the history of sports - everything single thing he has done has been under the microscope
- his 'Decision' was watched by 9.9 million viewers
- 1000000000000000000000000000000 articles/pieces/talkshow topics/sport-related medium's etc etc covered/analysed his failures from Cleveland to Miami
- had all different types of groups outside the 'immediate sports world' criticizing him
- left hundreds of thousands of people in an area, act as if their Pops was running out on them
- every single lil' thing he said was a talking point, even to the point of being blown out of proportion (e.g. 'Not 2, not 3, not 4, not 5, not 6, not 7.')
- had sports writers moonlighting as Dr. Phils, psycho-analysing James and the effects that coddling had on him and the mental-barriers in life that stood in his way of progressing as a player: "James would throw a bowl of fries back at a renowned chef and bark, “They’re cold!” Or throw his sweaty practice jersey across the court and command a team administrator to go pick it up. Everyone wants James to grow out of it, but he’s never showed much of an inclination for self-examination and improvement."
Show me an instance in history, that mirrors this. If you can't than there's no point in giving these tired ass comparisons. The truth is he won't get immunity for not winning a championship this season, far too much has happened and the state of the league; that the only way he's going to avoid any criticism - is to win the championship. Can the same be said for Melo?
This championship-pressure has been built up for years and it will only significantly subside once he has MULTIPLE rings and he's no longer the best player with the best team.
There's no straws left for you to clutch. Your shyt is bordering on stupidity right about now. Bron only has to coast through the entire playoffs to win a title, yet Melo has to play his ass off to get past the 1st round? I've heard it all.
Don't you realise that Bron is the main playmaker for that team?
Don't you realise that Bron is the defensive anchor for that team?
Don't you realise that Bron is the leading scorer on that team?
Don't you realise Bron is the closer of that team?
Don't you realise that every single area that revolves around that team is dependent on Bron carrying them?
You're deluded if you think Bron won't have to bust his ass in the playoffs for the Heat to win a championship, there'll be more times he has to go beyond the standard-calling to dig his team out of holes, than Melo will in the first round. I'mma up this shyt when the Heat are struggling to close out a team in the playoffs.
The problem with your line of thinking is that, if were to take everything as it stands now with Bron and the Heat: a legitimate case could only be made for Melo having more pressure in the playoffs - if the Knicks were better or equal as a team and Melo was looked at as the 'best player in the league' and the Knicks season was basically championship-or-bust. Only then would he have a case for having more pressure, but as it stands now, the Knicks have NO pressure of winning a title and Melo isn't close to being better than Bron.
You still haven't answered the question of: "Who out of Melo and Bron has the most pressure with their respective teams to win the championship this season?"
holidayinn21
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it's easily bron.
not winning this year after winning 60+ games for a 3rd time, being overwhelming favorites, then his ring will be in question, because it was during a shortened season.
not winning this year after winning 60+ games for a 3rd time, being overwhelming favorites, then his ring will be in question, because it was during a shortened season.