Who cares about Hinkie stepping down. He's already done irreparable damage to the NBA and the 76ers.

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Jrue Holiday and Iggy

They traded Iggy for Bynum, who was coming off an All-NBA season and was supposed to turn them into contenders. Instead of he never played a game and is the reason why the Sixers have become what they are today.

They got two lottery picks for an injured Jrue Holiday, I'd say they did just fine.

Would also like to note that in the first half of the 13-14 season they had MCW, Turner, Hawes & Thad Young and were still terrible
 

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maybe maybe not in philly. what i think happens with philly, is that the GM/ownership does everything in their power to make sure philly never grows up. any super young group of nba players will lose a ton of games just on GP of being young and dumb. UNLESS you slipped up on bron and say shaq at the same time. youth be damned these dudes would win a lot of games(would lose to a grown up team full of ballers but would still come out rolling.

Here's the thing, i actually like PHILLY the team. i hate hinkie. cause i hate gimmicks. Be a GM, stop being the guy who goes to the draft to sit there and pray for a ball to roll your way. literally thats all he's good for. yes it saves the owner tons of cash cause everyone is on kid contract. and it keeps some of the fanbase from going nuts when they lose because ya know...they were supposed to since they are young and we need that pick. you do this too much and the players will start to feel like oh this is a joke of a team/franchise. i'll play hard maybe when we play gstate on natl TV and my fam and boys are watching. i might show up when kobe comes to town cause the arena will be packed. but aside from that. i aint going hard. i'm shooting silly shots, trying silly passes, half a... playing defense. WHY try hard when i know or think we're not really tryin to win. when i know the moment we start winning games my GM will trade away everyone worth something and get back to losing. i'll just collect my millions and not stress. This is the mentality of a non superstar winner player. this is the mentality of what could be a solid role guy or a allstar player. this could then change that persons mentality into a losers mentality even though out of HS and college they were big time winners and knew nothing about losing at this rate.

again other teams are losing too(my lakers are one of them). but the franchise/GM are not TRYING to lose every game by trading away anyone of value even youth. lets not forget they had bubbling young dudes growing into themselves and they traded away all of those dudes to turn into TEam tank. that was the last time they've seen the playoffs. i was rooted for them then. had high hopes for the 6ers . i even gave hinkie a pass for tanking once the dumb moves were made. but now i see what it is. he's trying to take the lazy way out.
Here's the problem. Nobody stands to gain anything by doing that because you have to produce eventually. Hinkie couldn't last much longer not winning unless ownership woulda been cool with it (and if that's the case you're forever fukked and Hinkie becomes the least of your problems)

Yes they risk a losing environment. They have that. Most losing teams do. They don't have the kid of losing culture other places have not is it too late to turn that around. They need the right player for that. That doesn't have to be the #1 pick (this is where Philly is wrong). As I've said, it felt like they didn't like the guys they picked.

In a way you're talking as if you wanted Philly to lie to you about how they felt about roster construction and signed a bunch of meh players to make it appear like they were gonna go for that 8th spot even though theoretically they're not wrong about that being pointless
 

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But the end state is sill the same you either win or you don't...
i think skip bayless said it PERFECT today

because of hinke.. they are now sitting with 3 good assets in noel, okafor and embiid.. and 6 first round draft picks


now lets take ANY other team in the east 6 and below..... what the hell are they looking forward to but a first round exit and 1 shytty pick around 15-20
 

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The constant waiting and drafting injured players drive me crazy.
Bynum trade, Noel draft, Embiid draft, Saric draft.
Then every season is basically anticipation for the offseason :skip:
Its Novemeber and im looking forward to June
 

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The constant waiting and drafting injured players drive me crazy.
Bynum trade, Noel draft, Embiid draft, Saric draft.
Then every season is basically anticipation for the offseason :skip:
Its Novemeber and im looking forward to June
That's why I thought this was horrible. Every year they drafted a center with a season ending lower body injury. At this rate it'd take 4 years before these guy are even on the court together and there's still no guards who have any business playing on any team starting there.
 

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fukk Hinkie for making my Knickas missed out on AWLL those early draft picks, tho:pacspit::aicmon:
 

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i think skip bayless said it PERFECT today

because of hinke.. they are now sitting with 3 good assets in noel, okafor and embiid.. and 6 first round draft picks


now lets take ANY other team in the east 6 and below..... what the hell are they looking forward to but a first round exit and 1 shytty pick around 15-20

You really think the Sixers are in better position than the Pistons?
 

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There is definitely something wrong with it. I wouldn't put the heat there, cause they are missing bosh. And still, they regularly beat the cavs. So id say they have a chance


I'm talking about the pacers. Avg ass team since damn Reggie Miller. Never won shyt. No big free agent gonna go there. Not kd, not Russ, if Lebron leave, not him. Not kyrie. None of them.

And yet they are good enough to not get a draft pick worth a damn. And pretty much have first round loss written all over them.

The Hawks is another team. Never won shyt. Just keep on getting to the playoffs and what? Nothing.


The league has changed. These dudes are teaming up fast. They want to go to a place with good coaches, good players, good history. You just simply are not going to get a SUPERstar to about 20 teams in the league.

Not unless you draft one first. Or have so much cap room, you can buy two at once. Dudes are not about to go to the Pistons and try and win cause they make the 8th slot.

There's a better chance of you getting a Jimmy Butler in the 20s as a playoff team and having him be the final piece than there are of you winning the lottery and getting a Lebron James. 3rd and 4th year players fall in the draft every year and at least every couple of years there's a guy that blossoms mid to late first round and gives a tangible boost to a good team. I'd rather bank on that than having 3 historically bad seasons in hopes of getting a once a decade guy.
 

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You really think the Sixers are in better position than the Pistons?
Better position to do what exactly?

That's the question.

Better position to have a good record. Pistons

Better position to make the playoffs. Pistons

Better position to win the title. Neither team are

Better position to draft a great player. Sixers

Better position in free agency with big money. Sixers



I see your other post. Like I said. The sisters have SIX first round picks. So yes a good player will fall. And the sixers will have 6 damn chances to catch him/them while everyone else has 1.

We got 6 chances to hit or miss. 6 chances to trade for a good player for that pick. And another 50 million to try and chase role players/vets/journeymen



While a Pistons kinda team has no more chance of landing a Lebron in free agency than we do. And no chance of landing one in the draft.
 
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