Who cares about Hinkie stepping down. He's already done irreparable damage to the NBA and the 76ers.

[ahomeplateslugger]

the 6ers were wrong for getting jerry and bryan congalo involved and undermining hinkie. should've given him at least one more year and evaluate the team's outlook after next season. he accumulated all of these draft picks and don't even get to work with them

his approach of straight up tanking and treating the players like asset is wrong and unfair to the coaches, but they still had young players like okafor, convington, grant, canaan and stauskas developing so it wasn't like he just threw guys off the street out there. on top of this fukkery they brought in someone with a bad rep/track record to rebuild

 

[dh86]

Better position to do what exactly?

That's the question.

Better position to have a good record. Pistons

Better position to make the playoffs. Pistons

Better position to win the title. Neither team are

Better position to draft a great player. Sixers

Better position in free agency with big money. Sixers



I see your other post. Like I said. The sisters have SIX first round picks. So yes a good player will fall. And the sixers will have 6 damn chances to catch him/them while everyone else has 1.

We got 6 chances to hit or miss. 6 chances to trade for a good player for that pick. And another 50 million to try and chase role players/vets/journeymen



While a Pistons kinda team has no more chance of landing a Lebron in free agency than we do. And no chance of landing one in the draft.

The Pistons are in significantly better position to win the championship given the presence of an all star center and near all star pg. What a silly response. The value of first round picks as assets are mitigated by the fact that the Sixers haven't been able to trade them at all. Boston has Brooklyns #3 position and are in the playoffs but have been unable to parlay that into a star player. Sixers have their pick. Lakers pick if it's 4 or lower, OKC & Miami picks. Now generally teams wouldn't need to use all 4 picks, in the Sixers case. The roster is so bare it can be replenished by those picks. Regardless of getting the Lakers pick or getting Ben Simmons, Sixers won't get what they threw away 3 years and a 70 loss season for. I don't see a payoff worth it.

 

[FreedS[ohh]lave]

Until you have an all time great player who's the best or arguably the best player in the league on your team you have almost literally zero percent chance of winning a title.

The way to get that player is usually through the draft and with a pretty high pick.

The other way to get that player is free agency which rarely happens and when it does its to one of the few destination places in the nba which philly is not

So I see no problem with giving yourself as many chances as possible to land one rather then do whatever it takes to be as competitive as quickly as possible with no possible way to ever get that player

I do admit though as much as I'm pro tank Hinke took it to extreme limits trading anyone even young players in fear that they might win a few more games with that player lol

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

The Pistons are in significantly better position to win the championship given the presence of an all star center and near all star pg. What a silly response. The value of first round picks as assets are mitigated by the fact that the Sixers haven't been able to trade them at all. Boston has Brooklyns #3 position and are in the playoffs but have been unable to parlay that into a star player. Sixers have their pick. Lakers pick if it's 4 or lower, OKC & Miami picks. Now generally teams wouldn't need to use all 4 picks, in the Sixers case. The roster is so bare it can be replenished by those picks. Regardless of getting the Lakers pick or getting Ben Simmons, Sixers won't get what they threw away 3 years and a 70 loss season for. I don't see a payoff worth it.

Until you have an all time great player who's the best or arguably the best player in the league on your team you have almost literally zero percent chance of winning a title.

The way to get that player is usually through the draft and with a pretty high pick.

The other way to get that player is free agency which rarely happens and when it does its to one of the few destination places in the nba which philly is not

So I see no problem with giving yourself as many chances as possible to land one rather then do whatever it takes to be as competitive as quickly as possible with no possible way to ever get that player

I do admit though as much as I'm pro tank Hinke took it to extreme limits trading anyone even young players in fear that they might win a few more games with that player lol

I guess what I'm saying, is what he's saying

While most teams are stuck in a constant 1sr, 2nd round loss cycle. The best way to improve is to clear cap, dive all in for a major FA, and hope for the best player in the draft


I do believe one thing to wrap it up. I believe the sixers will make the playoffs next year. And I believe when players see that, the next year we'll be one of the top teams in the east when the cap adds about 30 mil, players retire from the league, and major free agents start leaving these teams


Had we kept trying to sign old dudes and sat around with the 13-15th picks. I think we'd be pretty much in the bottom half of the league anyway

I don't believe a team should be in contention and say fukk it, let's tank. But if you already suck. Ain't no reason trying to add 3 old nikkas to get to 10th place

 

[the cool]

Yall care more about those things than the players, whoever is offering the most money is going to get them, the Sixers are bad today doesn't mean they'll be bad 2-3 years from now. It's not like Philly is Iowa either do you think Harrison Barnes would turn down a max offer from them? Or Delly would turn down a bigger offer from them?

Lol why do you keep on mentioning Delladova ?

 

[dh86]

Until you have an all time great player who's the best or arguably the best player in the league on your team you have almost literally zero percent chance of winning a title.

The way to get that player is usually through the draft and with a pretty high pick.

The other way to get that player is free agency which rarely happens and when it does its to one of the few destination places in the nba which philly is not

So I see no problem with giving yourself as many chances as possible to land one rather then do whatever it takes to be as competitive as quickly as possible with no possible way to ever get that player

I do admit though as much as I'm pro tank Hinke took it to extreme limits trading anyone even young players in fear that they might win a few more games with that player lol

2014 Spurs. Also see Celtics trade for Kevin Garnett.

 

[tremonthustler1]

2014 Spurs. Also see Celtics trade for Kevin Garnett.

Celtics were offering cap relief, picks and a player McHale thought he could build around. Even then, that team already had Pierce ad had just acquired Ray Allen

None of that happens if they win the lotto that year

 

[nieman]

Until you have an all time great player who's the best or arguably the best player in the league on your team you have almost literally zero percent chance of winning a title.

The way to get that player is usually through the draft and with a pretty high pick.

The other way to get that player is free agency which rarely happens and when it does its to one of the few destination places in the nba which philly is not

So I see no problem with giving yourself as many chances as possible to land one rather then do whatever it takes to be as competitive as quickly as possible with no possible way to ever get that player

I do admit though as much as I'm pro tank Hinke took it to extreme limits trading anyone even young players in fear that they might win a few more games with that player lol

And this was the problem that most have with it. Jrue was an All'Star and got shipped off, but he was injured on t e low. That's understandable, but MCW was rookie of the year and he drafted a PG...in the lottery. Neither are on the team anymore. Thad Young put up the best numbers and was shipped off. Now, he's not the savior or anything, but he's a solid rotation piece and key contributor on a contender. He drafted C's that were already gonna miss the season. Sh!t was blatant.

 

[rapbeats]

J rue has pretty much missed 75% of the games he's played with the Pelicans though...So much so to the point that Nerlins has almost caught up with him in terms of games played.

thats not the point. and that was not the case when he was playing with philly. we dont know what would've happened if they kept some of that young core together. who knows for all we know the pelicans are going thru a bad stretch of injuries due to a fluke(it happened to the lakers like 3 years straight, first time in history that has happened. it used to happen to the clippers ALL THE TIME..which makes you wonder about that franchises medical staff and regimens they put their players on or dont that they should be putting them on. that could be the case for the pelicans but i can't say that just yet.

So again sorry hinkie does not get a pass on that move.

 

[jwinfield]

thats not the point. and that was not the case when he was playing with philly. we dont know what would've happened if they kept some of that young core together. who knows for all we know the pelicans are going thru a bad stretch of injuries due to a fluke(it happened to the lakers like 3 years straight, first time in history that has happened. it used to happen to the clippers ALL THE TIME..which makes you wonder about that franchises medical staff and regimens they put their players on or dont that they should be putting them on. that could be the case for the pelicans but i can't say that just yet.

So again sorry hinkie does not get a pass on that move.

Jrue played with stress fractures in his leg his last season with the Sixers, the team knew and got fined 3M for not disclosing it.

 

[MJ Truth]

I must say I've never seen a bottom feeder team get this much attention in my life.

Yes, you have. Knicks, Lakers, Celtics when they were very bad. Marquee teams are going to get more attention than the Bucks/Wolves of the world, stop being dense.

 

[MJ Truth]

I guess what I'm saying, is what he's saying

While most teams are stuck in a constant 1sr, 2nd round loss cycle. The best way to improve is to clear cap, dive all in for a major FA, and hope for the best player in the draft


I do believe one thing to wrap it up. I believe the sixers will make the playoffs next year. And I believe when players see that, the next year we'll be one of the top teams in the east when the cap adds about 30 mil, players retire from the league, and major free agents start leaving these teams


Had we kept trying to sign old dudes and sat around with the 13-15th picks. I think we'd be pretty much in the bottom half of the league anyway

I don't believe a team should be in contention and say fukk it, let's tank. But if you already suck. Ain't no reason trying to add 3 old nikkas to get to 10th place

So y'all gonna go from a damn near historic losing season to not only in the playoffs but one of the top teams in the East?

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

So y'all gonna go from a damn near historic losing season to not only in the playoffs but one of the top teams in the East?

i said in the next few years... as people get traded, players get old, and yes... that cap is going up an EXTRA 30 million.. it's the east breh... 43 wins will get you in the playoffs

now what do the sixers have... 3 top 6 picks in noel, embiid and okafor... a damn good coach (by everyone in the nba's words) in brett brown... 6 first round draft picks.. 2 second rounds.. next year we will be 40-50 million under the cap.. and the year after 80-90 million under the cap



if we can't put that together to be better than the hawks, celtics and heat (wade should be 150 by then) then hey...