Who Deserves More Credit for Making the Term 'Stan' Common in HipHop? Eminem or Nas?

Eminem or Nas?


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This thread is weird and reading a few post I think the song Stan went over a lot of y'all heads. It was called Stan for a reason, which pretty much defined what a Stan was for Nas to use it in the manner he did. Em should be the runaway winner of this poll.
 

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This thread is weird and reading a few post I think the song Stan went over a lot of y'all heads. It was called Stan for a reason, which pretty much defined what a Stan was for Nas to use it in the manner he did. Em should be the runaway winner of this poll.
he just made the song.

no one was calling anyone stan in 2000 after the song dropped.

Post-ether, you started seeing people call people stan.


It's as simple as that.
 

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Obviously Eminem. He made the goddamn song about Stan being a dikkriding fan. But since this site is so full of dikkriding Nas Stan’s of course the narrative will be that Nas coined the term. Stan’s, in their own right, cannot think straight. If Eminem doesn’t make the song, Nas doesn’t call Jay-Z Stan.
 

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It's supposed to be an insult and now people actually call themselves Stans for people :scust:
 

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Obviously Eminem. He made the goddamn song about Stan being a dikkriding fan. But since this site is so full of dikkriding Nas Stan’s of course the narrative will be that Nas coined the term. Stan’s, in their own right, cannot think straight. If Eminem doesn’t make the song, Nas doesn’t call Jay-Z Stan.
the question is who made it common though.

all em did was make a song.

he didn't really capitalize on it as a term we use today

you're right, no song, no term. but without ether, i highly doubt people would use it as it's used today.

no one was calling people stans after Stan. It started happening after ether.
 

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he just made the song.

no one was calling anyone stan in 2000 after the song dropped.

Post-ether, you started seeing people call people stan.


It's as simple as that.
I don't know why y'all keep saying no one was calling anyone a Stan prior to 2000 when they were, I know me and my homies were right after the song came out and also on AllHipHop forums. Y'all nikkas must be young, because this take is wrong. Em coined Stan and gave it, it's entire meaning in the song. Nas just used a term Em created.
 

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I don't know why y'all keep saying no one was calling anyone a Stan prior to 2000 when they were, I know me and my homies were right after the song came out and also on AllHipHop forums. Y'all nikkas must be young, because this take is wrong. Em coined Stan and gave it, it's entire meaning in the song. Nas just used a term Em created.
we probably round the same age breh.

i was on SOHH back then, and stan shyt didn't really take off until after ether.
 

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the question is who made it common though.

all em did was make a song.

he didn't really capitalize on it as a term we use today

you're right, no song, no term. but without ether, i highly doubt people would use it as it's used today.

no one was calling people stans after Stan. It started happening after ether.
All Nas did was be the first guy to say you’re a Stan on a diss record. Cam’Ron made the diss song to Stan Spit over the Stan instrumental as well. Everybody knew what Stan was after the song dropped. It was one of the most globally successful singles of all-time. We all knew Stan was an obsessive fan. It was dope that Nas used that line because EVERYBODY knew what he meant immediately after hearing it. Eminem gave the definition by creating the song and naming the protagonist Stan :heh:
 
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