Who has greater influence on rap music , Kanye West or Eminem?
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Kilgore Trout
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TheSickness
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If it's influence on the art of rapping and crafting verses then mos def Em but if it's these new emo rappers that go crazee and sing a lot it's Ye.
Well one nikka said that 808's is what changed the way rappers and every other genre makes music....even if that was true (it's not), how much of that credit are Kante stans willing to split with Kid Cudi?
Hip Hop culture is Ye by a land slide....Only a delusional Cac would disagree....
Chapter_BLK
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Kanye, of course.
I'm trying to really pin down how many artists have been influenced in a perceivable way by Eminem and not in a, "Man, that shyt was crazy when I heard it!" kinda way. I can only think of maybe a handful at most.
I'm trying to really pin down how many artists have been influenced in a perceivable way by Eminem and not in a, "Man, that shyt was crazy when I heard it!" kinda way. I can only think of maybe a handful at most.
They both served their purpose.
Em came around to cap the artistic peek of hip hop, placing a white boy in the greatest lyricist of all time conversation. Giving hip hop it's Elvis.
Kanye came around to ruin the artistic integrity and moral codes of hip hop by openly selling out, not writing lyrics, ghost producing, promoting homotional tendencies in black males, and opening the door for homosexuality to be accepted.
fukk both of them, basically.
Em came around to cap the artistic peek of hip hop, placing a white boy in the greatest lyricist of all time conversation. Giving hip hop it's Elvis.
Kanye came around to ruin the artistic integrity and moral codes of hip hop by openly selling out, not writing lyrics, ghost producing, promoting homotional tendencies in black males, and opening the door for homosexuality to be accepted.
fukk both of them, basically.
Screwface Exchange
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Fukk all dis Eminem shyt. Coli cacs gotta hurry up and stop talking bout dis fool. No1 gives a damn bout Eminem in real life and he doesn't give a dayum bout ne of y'all.
There is a difference between being influenced (being inspired) and biting.
Kante himself is a biter...Rhymefest was performing his biggest song on stage before he was.
He "curates" groups of talented people to make music for him.
Meanwhile...
This is how you show your influences without biting.
Besides, all copying Eminem entails is making yourself vulnerable to your fans by rapping about your life with a more technically driven style of rhyme.
I wonder who's having success with that forumula...I wonder what record label perfected that formula.
Kante on the other hand is throwing tent parties and scrounging around on the underground looking for shyt to steal and water down for mainstream consumption (Death Grips) only to be credited for being the influenc-er rather than the other way around.....
nikkas go hard on Drake for being a fraud, Kante is the Fraud-Father.
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@SunZoo
I agree with some of what you said. All Kanye essentially does is pull from other artists and channel it into his own music like you said, but when you break it down, being influenced is pretty much the same thing as biting. The only difference is that one is a more extreme version of the other.
That being said, even if Kanye steals or what-have-you, it doesn't change the fact that Kanye's fingerprint is in a lot of music these days. Yeah, Eminem inspired some rappers in your words to be "more technical and vulnerable". But comparatively speaking, can you bring up more artists that were influenced by Em that way vs. the myriad of 808s babies/College Dropouts/etc.? Never mind who Kanye took it from; who, then, took it from Kanye?
I agree with some of what you said. All Kanye essentially does is pull from other artists and channel it into his own music like you said, but when you break it down, being influenced is pretty much the same thing as biting. The only difference is that one is a more extreme version of the other.
That being said, even if Kanye steals or what-have-you, it doesn't change the fact that Kanye's fingerprint is in a lot of music these days. Yeah, Eminem inspired some rappers in your words to be "more technical and vulnerable". But comparatively speaking, can you bring up more artists that were influenced by Em that way vs. the myriad of 808s babies/College Dropouts/etc.? Never mind who Kanye took it from; who, then, took it from Kanye?