Who has the higher ceiling: Kyrie Irving or John Wall?

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where was this efficiency last year when he was the focal point of the offense? :sas2:
He had a down season compared to his standards. Still better than Wall last season.

He averaged 22.5 ppg on 45% shooting the season before that when he was the focal point of the offense too.

He averages 21 ppg on 45% for his CAREER. He's been an efficient scorer even without Bron.

If the Wizards had Kyrie instead of Wall last season, they would've gone to the ECF instead of losing in the second round on the back of Wall playing like absolute garbage.

Averaged 14 ppg, 36% shooting, 7.3 assists and 4 turnovers in the series. :scust:
 
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He had a down season compared to his standards. Still better than Wall last season.

He averaged 22.5 ppg on 45% shooting the season before that when he was the focal point of the offense too.

He averages 21 ppg on 45% for his CAREER. He's been an efficient scorer even without Bron.

If the Wizards had Kyrie instead of Wall last season, they would've gone to the ECF instead of losing in the second round on the back of Wall playing like absolute garbage.

14 ppg, 36% shooting, 7.3 assists and 4 turnovers in the series. :scust:
the boy ain't led a team to the playoffs but you believe he would've had a better series than a player who has? :heh:
 
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Wall had the best complimentary cast for a PG in the East last season. There's about 10 PGs in the league that would've made it into the playoffs with that roster.
 
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Beal, Ariza, Gortat and Nene. That's a GREAT complimentary cast. 3-pt shooting and perimeter defense and the best big man duo in the East.


and wall can win with this cavs team minus bron
Win what?

The team you see now is different to the team you saw playing when Bron was out. A lot different.

They had lineups like this:

Irving
Jr Smith
Mike Miller
Kevin Love
Tristan Thompson

Irving
Dellavedova
Miller
Love
Thompson

Dellavedova
Joe Harris (I bet you haven't even heard of dude)
Miller
Love
Thompson

Are you seriously gonna sit there and tell me Wall would've won them those games? Those lineups are lottery status. :heh:
 
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