Who has the higher ceiling: Kyrie Irving or John Wall?

[mastermind]

If Wall works on his jumper, dude is a 20 ppg, 10+ apg, 5 rpg, 3 spg, and first team all defensive player.

Wall has the higher ceiling, but Kyrie is a phenomenal player. He has to improve his playmaking and defending but I don't ever see him defending as well as Wall while Wall will never be the scorer Kyrie is.

 

[Sensitive Blake Griffin]

i been walls biggest defender you can ask the wizards nikkas.

not specifically you, throughout his entire injury all I'd get on here and see is negativity about John Wall.

 

[SubLyminalz]

Kyrie is a good playmaker?

I haven't seen it yet.

besides waiters who is very sometimish who else does he have?

 

[Diyhai]

Y'all must not watch kyrie play smh

 

[AlbertPullhoez]

Kyrie is 20 years old and has an awful team around him. For him to be so good so fast its crazy. He makes it look so easy out there.

But you cant go wrong with either one of these dudes

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[No Homo]

They each have what the other one is missing.

Wall has the higher ceiling though. Im still a wall fan and think he can be the best PG in the league one day if he puts it all together. Hes gotta get out of DC though to reach his potential.

 

[jaguar paw]

Y'all really think Wall will ever be a better shooter than Kyrie at some point in his career.

 

[Ashyneezz]

Y'all really think Wall will ever be a better shooter than Kyrie at some point in his career.

When did someone say anything about Wall being a better shooter than Kyrie

All folks were saying was if Wall ever gets a consistent shot himself. Do you have any reading comprehension skills?

 

[LezJepzin]

Irving because he can stay healthy.

 

[mastermind]

I will say this, even though I think Wall's ceiling is higher, Kyrie is more likely to end up the better player.

 

[jaguar paw]

When did someone say anything about Wall being a better shooter than Kyrie

All folks were saying was if Wall ever gets a consistent shot himself. Do you have any reading comprehension skills?

The reason I said that is because nikkas is saying he has a higher ceiling than Kyrie. He will never be a better scorer than Kyrie so how could he become a better player?

What's he got on Kyrie? Athleticism ? That's a diminishing skill.

Kyrie has all the tools be the best PG in the league already. And he's not even 21.

 

[Malta]

Irving because he can stay healthy.

Irving gets hurt a lot.

 

[Black]

The reason I said that is because nikkas is saying he has a higher ceiling than Kyrie. He will never be a better scorer than Kyrie so how could he become a better player?

What's he got on Kyrie? Athleticism ? That's a diminishing skill.

Kyrie has all the tools be the best PG in the league already. And he's not even 21.

how the fukk does being a better scorer mean you're a better player?

 

[Brozay]

]Because he doesn't average a certain APG?

If he averaged 9 APG we wouldn't be having this discussion lets be real [/B]

Kyrie Irving Passing Highlights 2012/2013 - YouTube

Im not even sure what argument this is proving for you... because I didnt mention AST's and the fact that hes playing 35 minutes a night and is nowhere even near that total really makes it confusing why you threw out this random number.

but since you wanna talk AST's, lets & discuss. Kyrie Irving has not only proven to not be a 'great' playmaker but he has been pretty bad through 90 games.

out of 50 qualified PGs this season he falls 49th in AST/TO ratio.

rose, russ, steph all were killed for being much better playmakers than kyrie, he just has been getting a pass for this and people like you continue to perpetrate this myth that he can create.

hes the biggest 'SG playing PG' there is. lets start talking about it.

 

[jaguar paw]

how the fukk does being a better scorer mean you're a better player?

People in here saying that "if Wall ever gets a consistent jumper" that's what would put him over Kyrie.

I'm saying that wont ever happen.

Kyrie has barely played over 82 games in the NBA and is an All Star. He is the better player. And will be the better player going forward.