Who Has the Most Sophisticated and the Simplest Vocabulary in Hip Hop History?

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Nicki Minaj is more lyrical than 2pokk

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I'm sending this to every Drake stan I know. We all knew that defense of his lyrics are complex, mature, and original was complete bullshyt. Now we have the proof.

What in the world does that list have to do with his lyrics being complex and mature? You can have complex lyrics without having a large vocabulary.

See, I was afraid this was gonna happen. nikkas who really don't know anything about MCing skills and lyricism gonna think this means something. Large words has absolutely NOTHING to do with how complex you are. You can be complex using 4 letter words.
 

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What in the world does that list have to do with his lyrics being complex and mature? You can have complex lyrics without having a large vocabulary.

See, I was afraid this was gonna happen. nikkas who really don't know anything about MCing skills and lyricism gonna think this means something. Large words has absolutely NOTHING to do with how complex you are. You can be complex using 4 letter words.


Size of vocabulary is intimately connected to scope of expression. This has nothing to do with large or small words, but the number of different words. The more words you have at your disposal, the more expressive you can be. It doesn't mean that there aren't rappers who can do more with less, because there are, but all things being equal, a bigger vocab means wider palette to paint on.
 

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Size of vocabulary is intimately connected to scope of expression. This has nothing to do with large or small words, but the number of different words. The more words you have at your disposal, the more expressive you can be. It doesn't mean that there aren't rappers who can do more with less, because there are, but all things being equal, a bigger vocab means wider palette to paint on.
Example of a cac that listens to hip hop I was referring to my brehs

See how this idiot of a cac who has a cac perception of what this rap sht is, gets all giddy when finding out an MC uses less words than another to determine talent

These cacs are on one maaan
 

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Size of vocabulary is intimately connected to scope of expression. This has nothing to do with large or small words, but the number of different words. The more words you have at your disposal, the more expressive you can be. It doesn't mean that there aren't rappers who can do more with less, because there are, but all things being equal, a bigger vocab means wider palette to paint on.
dude, cats like wu tang literally tossed in random words to fill space while lacking any ability to stylistically present their material.

and i KNOW this drake shyt doesn't count his mixtape stuff so whats the point?
 

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Size of vocabulary is intimately connected to scope of expression. This has nothing to do with large or small words, but the number of different words. The more words you have at your disposal, the more expressive you can be. It doesn't mean that there aren't rappers who can do more with less, because there are, but all things being equal, a bigger vocab means wider palette to paint on.

No it isn't.

And your argument wasn't about expression, you said Drake isn't a complex lyricist because he wasn't as high on the list of large vocabulary having rappers. Know who else isn't high on the list? Lupe and Eminem. E-40 is near the front, so is Wale. Going by your theory, Lil Kim is a better lyricist than Royce Da 5'9, Scarface, Jadakiss, 2Pac, DMX. Fat Joe is a better lyricist than Eminem and Rakim. Come on man. That vocabulary shyt has nothing to do with anything. Is it nice to have some more words to use to express yourself? Sure. But it's much more important what you do with the words you use rather than how many different ones you're using.
 

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Example of a cac that listens to hip hop I was referring to my brehs

See how this idiot of a cac who has a cac perception of what this rap sht is, gets all giddy when finding out an MC uses less words than another to determine talent

These cacs are on one maaan
:pachaha: Bruh got too excited when he saw Drake, sent a text to every Drake fan he knew like "See, I TOLD you Aesop Rock was more lyrical than Drake!!"

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I've never heard anyone put together the words K does. By far dudes vocab is more expansive than the obvious lyricists listed in this thread....


If K-Rino was on the list and they did it properly he would win.
 

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Example of a cac that listens to hip hop I was referring to my brehs

See how this idiot of a cac who has a cac perception of what this rap sht is, gets all giddy when finding out an MC uses less words than another to determine talent

These cacs are on one maaan

Bruh got too excited when he saw Drake, sent a text to every Drake fan he knew like "See, I TOLD you Aesop Rock was more lyrical than Drake!!"

Listen to how emotional you are. Calm the fukk down. I'm Black and I've never listened to an Aesop Rock album in my entire life. I grew up on early-mid 90s hip-hop. Don't be mad because I think Drake is garbage.

dude, cats like wu tang literally tossed in random words to fill space while lacking any ability to stylistically present their material.

and i KNOW this drake shyt doesn't count his mixtape stuff so whats the point?

Wu Tang lacks "stylistic ability" compared to Drake? Can you define what you mean by that? Wu Tang, at least when they were still fresh, were more creative in almost every way than most other groups, and individual rappers, too- conceptually, aesthetically, etc. They defined more than most rappers.

No it isn't.

And your argument wasn't about expression, you said Drake isn't a complex lyricist because he wasn't as high on the list of large vocabulary having rappers. Know who else isn't high on the list? Lupe and Eminem. E-40 is near the front, so is Wale. Going by your theory, Lil Kim is a better lyricist than Royce Da 5'9, Scarface, Jadakiss, 2Pac, DMX. Fat Joe is a better lyricist than Eminem and Rakim. Come on man. That vocabulary shyt has nothing to do with anything. Is it nice to have some more words to use to express yourself? Sure. But it's much more important what you do with the words you use rather than how many different ones you're using.

Yes, it is. A children's book has a smaller vocab than The Autobiography of Malcolm X. You gonna sit here and tell me that they're both the same, or that any children's book has a chance to be more expressive than something like the Autobiography?

You're talking lyricism, I'm not. I'm purely talking about vocabulary and its relation to the size of an expressive palette . Yall are putting all kinds of things into my post that weren't there. Overall lyricism, overall quality, etc, have nothing to do with my post.
 
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Listen to how emotional you are. Calm the fukk down. I'm Black and I've never listened to an Aesop Rock album in my entire life. I grew up on early-mid 90s hip-hop. Don't be mad because I think Drake is garbage.
:pachaha: at you removing the smilies from my post so you could go with the "You mad" angle. Nobody's mad, I'm laughing at you being so desperate to find a reason to hate Drake.

"Ah-ha! :ohhh: I can't believe it, Drake only used 3522 unique words in his first 35,000! What a horrible rapper! I can't wait to tell all my friends that like Drake, I bet this'll break their heart!"

fukkin nerd :russ:
 
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