who here makes the most money?

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I work an average of 55 hours a week. There is a business professional dress code, though ties are not required.

The #certGang is a crock. Having a cert is nice but you won't get the job unless its low end entry level. I've hired enough people and talked to enough managers to know that experience is more important than certs. If you think getting an MCSA cert and a CCNA cert will get you in as an admin with no experience with networking and M$ systems your probably going to start on a help desk.

I have no certs. Companies value degrees more than certs these days.
experience yes degrees no, in almost every job you will see "college degree or equivalent experience"
 
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Maybe we could turn this into a how to get money thread and educate some hungry younger brehs on the come up.

Instead of reaching for random fukkery let's try to educate and empower each other from time to time.

I'll start:

I work in IT at and F50 organization, I'm 30 and I made about 117k last year. I am working on launching an online business as well. Ask me anything. Or if you have ideas on how to improve let me know.

:myman:

I'm looking to break 100k in my next move but I need a few back-up skills so I can do some side consulting. That is the wave of the future.

What are some recommended stand alone IT skills a tech savvy brother can pick-up to earn some cash on the side?
 

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:myman:

I'm looking to break 100k in my next move but I need a few back-up skills so I can do some side consulting. That is the wave of the future.

What are some recommended stand alone IT skills a tech savvy brother can pick-up to earn some cash on the side?

You're right consulting is where the big money is. I have a friend who owns a company that cleared 20 mil last year doing network consulting and selling Cisco products.

Consulting is tough though. They guys who make the most money doing it are typically people with a mile long resume. They consult for the large scale enterprises. On a smaller scale (and im looking to get into this also) you could consult for local small businesses. Often times these owners have a good business mind but don't know how to use IT to optimize the business. This could include setting up a website, site optimization. Using PC terminals to improve the business, etc. I think thats a good place to start for someone who has been in their given IT field for less than 10 years.

:patrice: I'm thinking about going into IT...I'm trying to advance..how do I break into it so I can get this money?

There isn't a quick way to make big money in this game, anyone who says there is is lying. It started in 08 and didn't clear 6 figs for about 6 years. You need to have an idea of where you want to be long term before you start.

Young and not looking to get into management? You may be okay without a degree. You can get your certs start at a help desk and grind your way into a sys admin position. It's a faster way into short money but longer term you may get passed over for promotions.

Looking to make it to the executive level one day? You MUST have a degree (at least a bachelors), the certs aren't as important as networking with the right people are keeping yourself prepare for new opportunity.

In either case its important that you do things to make yourselves stand out. Work longer hours volunteer for things that will help show management you are ready for that next step, network with higher-ups and learn everything they are willing to teach you.
 

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There isn't a quick way to make big money in this game, anyone who says there is is lying. It started in 08 and didn't clear 6 figs for about 6 years. You need to have an idea of where you want to be long term before you start.

Young and not looking to get into management? You may be okay without a degree. You can get your certs start at a help desk and grind your way into a sys admin position. It's a faster way into short money but longer term you may get passed over for promotions.

Looking to make it to the executive level one day? You MUST have a degree (at least a bachelors), the certs aren't as important as networking with the right people are keeping yourself prepare for new opportunity.

In either case its important that you do things to make yourselves stand out. Work longer hours volunteer for things that will help show management you are ready for that next step, network with higher-ups and learn everything they are willing to teach you.

sounds good. So how did you pick up these skills in IT breh? Also is the learning curve easy enough? I really only have MS office experience
 

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sounds good. So how did you pick up these skills in IT breh? Also is the learning curve easy enough? I really only have MS office experience

I went to college and have a degree but the classes didn't really teach me anything I didn't already know. Any IT infrastructure professional worth his salt has their own lab at home. I setup virtual environments to experiment all the time. All of Microsoft's infrastructure products have a 180 day trial with no limit on reinstalls.

The learning curve depends on how you're put together. I transitioned out of retail at 19. I'm naturally analytical so I don't have a problem picking things up. The code monkeys make big money but I don't find it enjoyable to stare at code all day.
 
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