Who in your opinion is the most overrated talent currently in the WWE?

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Can't stand Cesaro's cartoon offence. Same corny shyt every match.
 

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Easily Brock.

"Suplex City" has been repetitive and stale for a while now, but everyone just gives him a pass because "b-b-but he's a beast!"
This. Brock/Berg was cool, but his last great match was Brock/Cena/Rollins at RR 2015. :beli:
 

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Toss up between ambrose and Bailey
Both are horrible on the mic, in fact if im watching DVr they get the skip
And both are extremely overrated workers,theyre both sloppy in the ring and neither should be in the positions theyre in,as both are heath slater level talents
 

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Austin broke down why Rollins ain't shyt on his Wrestlemania review. His match with HHH exposed him, he's in a blood fued doing super kicks and enzuguri's.

He does not know how to work. None of these dudes can. People think working is fancy moves and it isn't. He has zero fire. Needs to learn from AJ.
These indy darlings stay exposing themselves. :snoop:
 

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Austin broke down why Rollins ain't shyt on his Wrestlemania review. His match with HHH exposed him, he's in a blood fued doing super kicks and enzuguri's.

He does not know how to work. None of these dudes can. People think working is fancy moves and it isn't. He has zero fire. Needs to learn from AJ.

The problem that Seth has and it goes back to his early years on the indy scene, I don't think he worked an extensive program (if at all) with the guys from the 80's or 90's, who know how to work a proper match and/or had experience of wrestling on TV/PPV's. All he was doing, was wrestling his peers (people in the same position, 1-2 years experience or good indy names) in those early days. I'd say the best guy he faced was Nigel and he doesn't fit that category.

If you look at the Main 3 indy guys from 2000, Punk, Bryan & AJ.

Punk feuded w/ Raven for a year

Bryan had Regal as a mentor and travelled the world.

AJ got to work w/ Daniels, Jerry Lynn, Dusty and people like XPac, DLo, Joey Matthews, Doug Williams, Garza & Killings to name a few in his first 4 years. People who were very good workers, in-ring psychology or had national TV/PPV exposure
 
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As much as I hate Dean I'd imagine he's the most banged up in the company right now. All them CZW matches had to take a toll on him. Then working all the dates he does, Id be coasting too.

When Seth came back and they didn't turn him face right away they fukked him.

Sami is the worst though, I'd much rather watch a 20 minute Cesaro match then a 20 minute Sami match.
 

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The problem that Seth has and it goes back to his early years on the indy scene, I don't think he worked an extensive program (if at all) with the guys from the 80's or 90's, who know how to work a proper match and/or had experience of wrestling on TV/PPV's. All he was doing, was wrestling his peers (people in the same position, 1-2 years experience or good indy names) in those early days. I'd say the best guy he faced was Nigel and he doesn't fit that category.

If you look at the Main 3 indy guys from 2000, Punk, Bryan & AJ.

Punk feuded w/ Raven for a year

Bryan had Regal as a mentor and travelled the world.

AJ got to work w/ Daniels, Jerry Lynn, Dusty and people like XPac, DLo, Joey Matthews, Doug Williams, Garza & Killings to name a few in his first 4 years. People who were very good workers, in-ring psychology or had national TV/PPV exposure
Exactly!

He let these geeks gas him, and now he really cant work. Being a good worker isnt being good at fake fighting, being a good worker is being able to work the crowd into being excited.

Hogan could work the crowd, Bruno could work the crowd, Austin could work the crowd, Bret could, HBK could etc.

These indy dudes cannot work an audience without doing a high spot. They dont know how to establish connection.


People in here saying KO da gawd, Sami zayn and cesaro :martin:

Wyatt has a dope character if they didn't make him lose all the time his character could be taken more serious

THOSE DUDES ARE HORRIBLE STOP IT.

Zayn maybe with the right booking could be okay. But it would have to be masterful or luck like with Bryan.

Cesaro is swaggerless. He's athletic, but he is a straight bozo. I been telling u guys this for years.

The writing can make anyone look good, but thats not happening.
 

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As much as I hate Dean I'd imagine he's the most banged up in the company right now. All them CZW matches had to take a toll on him. Then working all the dates he does, Id be coasting too.

When Seth came back and they didn't turn him face right away they fukked him.

Sami is the worst though, I'd much rather watch a 20 minute Cesaro match then a 20 minute Sami match.

I hate Ambrose's offense so much. I guess he was hidden in the Shield, especially as a heel. But as a face, I can't stand all that wacky garbage. He's over as shyt, and can cut some good promos when he wants (his ones on Cena and Miz were very good), but I hate watching his matches.
 

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Bailey was always a terrible talker and a so so in-ring talent. They completely screwed over Becky Lynch by making it seem like Sasha and Bailey had these classic matches when Sasha and Becky had the best women's match I have seen in WWE since I came back to wrestling.

I'm not debating who is better. But during her reign as NXT champ I loved how Bayley had very different matches from the rest of the roster, even though it wasn't always a MOTYC I was very impressed how she actually put the effort into telling compelling stories and executing them at a high level. Her matches with Sasha, Asuka and Nia Jax all had different elements that made me go :leon: and were more interesting than anything the men were doing with their "your move/my moves+finishers kickouts" fukked up indy style.

And now I see her in the main roster and she's a mediocre worker all around. Maybe she got exposed and was just very protected by the agents in NXT and had the time to rehearse matches, and if that's the case it's a bummer because I really thought she was a dope worker :mjcry:
 

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Dean Ambrose - In the ring
Dolph Ziggler - All around
Enzo and Big Cass - All around
Bray Wyatt - All around
Finn Balor - All around
Bayley - In the ring

All have me either like :beli: or :papescust: every time they're on my TV
 

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Exactly!

He let these geeks gas him, and now he really cant work. Being a good worker isnt being good at fake fighting, being a good worker is being able to work the crowd into being excited.

Hogan could work the crowd, Bruno could work the crowd, Austin could work the crowd, Bret could, HBK could etc.

These indy dudes cannot work an audience without doing a high spot. They dont know how to establish connection.




THOSE DUDES ARE HORRIBLE STOP IT.

Zayn maybe with the right booking could be okay. But it would have to be masterful or luck like with Bryan.

Cesaro is swaggerless. He's athletic, but he is a straight bozo. I been telling u guys this for years.

The writing can make anyone look good, but thats not happening.
Cesaro and sami zayn can out work 90% of the roster stop it slime
 

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Cesaro and sami zayn can out work 90% of the roster stop it slime

"These indy dudes cannot work an audience without doing a high spot. They dont know how to establish connection."

Cesaro basically wills the crowd into every match he's in :pachaha:the crowd loves him, but the WWE can't decide what his gimmick is. Is he James Bond? Is he a stripper? Is he Jason Statham? Whatever it is, he hasn't gone all the way with either, he's basically all 3, including now wearing a kilt like Sheamus (who in turn started wearing shades like Cesaro). But can't say he doesn't connect with the crowd, cause that would be a flat out lie.
 
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