BodeineBrazy
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How? What are there redeemable qualities outside of cool moves?
Tell me... I'm willing to listen.
If they retired what would the be remembered for?
Who in your opinion is the most overrated talent currently in the WWE?
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How? What are there redeemable qualities outside of cool moves?
Tell me... I'm willing to listen.
If they retired what would the be remembered for?
BodeineBrazy
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U sound like u have no intelligent rebuttal or real concrete evidence to back up your difference in opinion.
U like them nikkas that's cool. I like them too. But let's not lie to our selves.
Playaz Eyez
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The coli truly houses a lot of dudes with low comprehension skills that need everything spelled out for them. Let me assist you. Cesaro and Sami are two dudes that are over, despite not really having gimmicks. Are they over like AJ, Cena, or KO? Of course not, but you're a complete doofus to not see how the crowd reacts to them during their matches. You don't think much of them like other dudes, cool, but to deny how much the crowd is receptive of them is just you covering your ears and sticking to a point you're failing miserably on. You keep asking a ton of hypothetical questions that have nothing to do with them being very well-liked by the crowd despite their lack of character.
LaughsLikePac makes some good points though, let's be honest. Obviously being good in the ring is important, but you need more than that. You need a well defined character not just a CAW, you need to be good on the mic, you need good nicknames/catchphrases, memorable things that standout, memorable attire perhaps, a unique finisher, great theme music, personality traits that are instantly recognizable, maybe a great look or even better would be a different look etc etc.
Think of anyone in the top 20/30 all time and they have most if not all of them. Say Batista for example, he's good in the ring, had a good character, was great on the mic especially as a heel, in fact he could be play a great heel; had a great nickname "The Animal", some great memorable moments throughout the years, a great finishing move in the Batista Bomb; great theme music, some cool traits that stand out and obviously has a good believable look. The fact that he's become a crossover star and is starring in big Marvel movies isn't surprising at all. Does anyone think Zayn is starring in big movies in 15 years? Just saying.
Not I know Sami Zayn and Cesaro are still early in their careers, but do they cover all those above boxes? Not really. They're great in the ring, maybe even among the best in the company; but you need more than that and unfortunately those two lack a lot of things.
Think of anyone in the top 20/30 all time and they have most if not all of them. Say Batista for example, he's good in the ring, had a good character, was great on the mic especially as a heel, in fact he could be play a great heel; had a great nickname "The Animal", some great memorable moments throughout the years, a great finishing move in the Batista Bomb; great theme music, some cool traits that stand out and obviously has a good believable look. The fact that he's become a crossover star and is starring in big Marvel movies isn't surprising at all. Does anyone think Zayn is starring in big movies in 15 years? Just saying.
Not I know Sami Zayn and Cesaro are still early in their careers, but do they cover all those above boxes? Not really. They're great in the ring, maybe even among the best in the company; but you need more than that and unfortunately those two lack a lot of things.
Playaz Eyez
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LaughsLikePac makes some good points though, let's be honest. Obviously being good in the ring is important, but you need more than that. You need a well defined character not just a CAW, you need to be good on the mic, you need good nicknames/catchphrases, memorable things that standout, memorable attire perhaps, a unique finisher, great theme music, personality traits that are instantly recognizable, maybe a great look or even better would be a different look etc etc.
Think of anyone in the top 20/30 all time and they have most if not all of them. Say Batista for example, he's good in the ring, had a good character, was great on the mic especially as a heel, in fact he could be play a great heel; had a great nickname "The Animal", some great memorable moments throughout the years, a great finishing move in the Batista Bomb; great theme music, some cool traits that stand out and obviously has a good believable look. The fact that he's become a crossover star and is starring in big Marvel movies isn't surprising at all. Does anyone think Zayn is starring in big movies in 15 years? Just saying.
Not I know Sami Zayn and Cesaro are still early in their careers, but do they cover all those above boxes? Not really. They're great in the ring, maybe even among the best in the company; but you need more than that and unfortunately those two lack a lot of things.
This is very true....yet the crowds are still very responsive to them, which was my entire point. They're over, though not hugely over like top guys. And let's really be honest here, in this current era in the WWE, how many people really even have gimmicks? Seth Rollins' gimmick and slogan is "FREAKIN" for crying out loud
BodeineBrazy
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But you have yet to prove how they are over. By your LOGIC Fandango was over. Luke Harper gets the same level pops as them. Like Harper is over?
Crowd Response does not equal over. Stop the bullshyt, those dudes aren't getting thunderous applause. They not getting chants.
Just admit you wrong my nikka. You haven't said one thing to counter shyt I said. Just dikkriding
SpacelySprockets
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bayley.. horrible on the mic, her character is trash.. bubbly innocent womanchild who hugs people.. wow amazing, her merch and entrance are the best thing about her and the shyt isnt even original.. sasha made her a star and carried her to classic matches.. asuka carried her afterwards.. been trash ever since
smarks only like her because she's ugly as fukk and they think they have a chance with her thats why they do those stupid ass chants in the middle of her matches singing love songs to her
smarks only like her because she's ugly as fukk and they think they have a chance with her thats why they do those stupid ass chants in the middle of her matches singing love songs to her
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Playaz Eyez
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"Are they over like AJ, Cena, or KO? Of course not"
"They're over, though not hugely over like top guys"
Dumbass you need to just read posts then proofread your own, we just said the same thing. Admit you couldn't pass a GED if your life depended on it and move on. Feel like I'm talking to a kid.
I've been saying all this for God knows how long and finally someone actually agrees with me
Apart from the entrance thing, music is trash and the waving buddies thing is so fukking cringey
BodeineBrazy
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They are not fukking over. No need to get personal.
Jmare007
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It's funny as fukk how criticism went from that to "they do too many moves for no damn reason"
It's definitely Seth
We all know Dean Ambrose is beyond trash in the ring, so technically he can't be overrated regardless of how bad WWE and Tumblr says otherwise.
Seth on the other hand has all the tools to be great, but he hasn't had a memorable match since maybe the Triple Threat with him, Cena and Brock. I can name more Roman matches I've enjoyed and he's supposed to be the "bad wrestler"
We all know Dean Ambrose is beyond trash in the ring, so technically he can't be overrated regardless of how bad WWE and Tumblr says otherwise.
Seth on the other hand has all the tools to be great, but he hasn't had a memorable match since maybe the Triple Threat with him, Cena and Brock. I can name more Roman matches I've enjoyed and he's supposed to be the "bad wrestler"
BodeineBrazy
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Vince.
Hence his win Sunday.
Matt Riddle is the future of the biz tho. If they book him right.
That was only for the ESPN headlines
They gave him the win since he has a connection with Gronkowski, plus the Andre battle royal doesn't mean shyt