Who is drafting Bijan Robinson?

[Joe Sixpack]

The point is that it doesn’t matter because no running back, not even a generational one is worth taking in the top ten picks because you don’t need one to win.

You play to win.
That’s the whole point.

Why would you take a running back 8th overall when you can win as many games or more with a running back taken on Day 2 or 3? And the history proves this.

You refuse to answer that simple question.

Tomlinson didn’t win a title either.
Hell Barry Sanders was the most generational RB ever. He didn’t win anything either.

Why not? Because the team lacked talent elsewhere that had a greater correlation/impact to winning.

Everyone understands this but you seem hell bent on ignoring it out of this Bijan stannery.

Yeah. He’s great.
But he’s not good enough to justify that heavy of an investment that comes at that draft price.

The Seahawks have two 2nd round RBs. The Bills have another. They are also better teams than the Falcons. That’s not a coincidence.

Draft strategy and value matters.

Dawg

You gotta stop using these lame lazy media talking points about not taking a RB in the 1st round

You sound ridiculous and you are using ZERO context

Emmitt Smith was drafted in the 1st round.. Did he win a SB?

What about Marcus Allen? He was a 1st rd pick. Did he win a SB?

What about Walter Payton? Wasn't he a 1st rd pick?

Did he win a SB?

 

[Harry B]

The point I made wasn’t that Bijan was a bad player.

The point was that a RB doesn’t move the needle to be taken at that draft position.

The Falcons are not a playoff team. As good as Bijan is, he hasn’t moved the needle far enough to make this a contending team.

So 3 years later, I’m still right.

I’ve often seen people complain about drafting RBs high but not other positions like a good OT or edge is winning the league himself.


Worse in this analysis is that you are not even considering the fact that Bijan is a dual-threat RB. 800 receiving yards this season with a passing game that has been mediocre from what i've seen.


Dude is a candidate for offensive player of the year and you are saying that he isn't first round material, as is McCaffrey, and Saqc00n took it last year

 

[NYC Rebel]

I’ve often seen people complain about drafting RBs high but not other positions like a good OT or edge is winning the league himself.


Worse in this analysis is that you are not even considering the fact that Bijan is a dual-threat RB. 800 receiving yards this season with a passing game that has been mediocre from what i've seen

Exactly. He doesn’t consider Bijan. He only consider his one size fits all talking point. We told him before Bijan ever stepped foot on an NFL field he fits both roles as a receiver and rusher. But he didn’t watch him in college to know better

 

[Remote]

Dawg

You gotta stop using these lame lazy media talking points about not taking a RB in the 1st round

You sound ridiculous and you are using ZERO context

Emmitt Smith was drafted in the 1st round.. Did he win a SB?

What about Marcus Allen? He was a 1st rd pick. Did he win a SB?

What about Walter Payton? Wasn't he a 1st rd pick?

Did he win a SB?

Using RBs from 30-40 years ago makes about as much sense as talking NBA draft strategy using Rik Smits.

There’s a reason I mostly asked for RBs in the last 15-20 years. And even that’s quite a leap.

 

[Remote]

I’ve often seen people complain about drafting RBs high but not other positions like a good OT or edge is winning the league himself.


Worse in this analysis is that you are not even considering the fact that Bijan is a dual-threat RB. 800 receiving yards this season with a passing game that has been mediocre from what i've seen.


Dude is a candidate for offensive player of the year and you are saying that he isn't first round material, as is McCaffrey, and Saqc00n took it last year

McCaffrey hasn’t won a sb and Saquon didn’t lead the Giants to a title. If anything the Eagles did the right thing because they gave up considerably less to acquire him.

 

[Harry B]

McCaffrey hasn’t won a sb and Saquon didn’t lead the Giants to a title. If anything the Eagles did the right thing because they gave up considerably less to acquire him.

They have still been the best offensive players in the league, and Saquon led Philly to a title offensively, although they were just great all-round.



And I can name you 100 QBs or linesmen taken in the first who haven't lead teams to a title either

 

[Joe Sixpack]

Using RBs from 30-40 years ago makes about as much sense as talking NBA draft strategy using Rik Smits.

There’s a reason I mostly asked for RBs in the last 15-20 years. And even that’s quite a leap.

Nah man nah don't start that

That doesn't matter don't gimme that

Its football..

Didnt we just see Saquon Barkley last season lead his team to a championship?

Wasn't he a 1st rd pick??

 

[Remote]

They have still been the best offensive players in the league, and Saquon led Philly to a title.

And I can name you 100 QBs or linesmen taken in the first who haven't lead teams to a title either

Ok.

 

[Joe Sixpack]

@Remote how many QBs drafted in the 1st round in the last 20 years have led their teams to championships?

 

[Remote]

Nah man nah don't start that

That doesn't matter don't gimme that

Its football..

Didnt we just see Saquon Barkley last season lead his team to a championship?

Wasn't he a 1st rd pick??

You guys are reading the words but not comprehending them.

It’s not about the player. It’s about the value. The Eagles did not pay the price for Saquon that the Giants did.

 

[Remote]

@Remote how many QBs drafted in the 1st round in the last 20 years have led their teams to championships?

Let’s start at the beginning.

Does it matter where you draft a player or not?

 

[Joe Sixpack]

Let’s start at the beginning.

Does it matter where you draft a player or not?

Cmon man

I asked a simple question

 

[Remote]

Cmon man

I asked a simple question

So did I.

 

[Joe Sixpack]

@Remote

Building a football team a certain way is a organizational philosophy. There are many factors that go into building a championship team.

You can point to teams that took a RB in the 1st round with zero context and be like "See, See don't take a RB in the 1st rd!" just like I can say since 2000 only 3 QBs taken in the 1st rd have led those teams to championships

You have to know how to build a team it has nothing to do with this dont draft a RB in the 1st rd nonsense.

Andrew Luck was viewed as a cant miss generational lock HOFer

Why didn't he lead the Colts to the Promised Land?

 

[Remote]

Building a football team a certain way is an organizational philosophy. There are many factors that go into building a championship team

I would agree with this.

You can point to teams that took a RB in the 1st round with zero context and be like "See, See don't take a RB in the 1st rd!" just like I can say since 2000 only 3 QBs taken in the 1st rd have led thise teams to championships

You have to know how to build team it has nothing to do with this dont draft a RB in the 1st rd nonsense.

I have less of an issue with a RB in the “first round” and a much bigger issue with a RB in the first 10 picks.

Someone like James Cook gives you 80-90% of the offensive output of Bijan, costs you significantly less draft capital, and allows you to build out other, more impactful parts of your team.

So if you want to sit here and disagree with my philosophy like you started out this comment, that’s fine. We can disagree and move on.

Though I’ve been dragged into this thread all day over a point that simply does not matter. And that is how good Bijan is. I don’t give a shyt how good he is. And he’s REALLY GOOD. But the value was bad. And I firmly believe that.