Who is the 2025 NFL MVP?

[seymour cake]

Strafford fa sho

 

[BucciMane]

Rams are second in the division BTW, not third.

But I guess we need to exclude all 1 yard TDs since those dont count and are so easy to do. Stafford has 38 TDs and Maye has 28.

Nevermind, lets figure out how to make it look better. I guess we can remove all 2 yard TDs since those dont count in the NFL anymore. Also lets remove the Cardinals game TDs and to be fair remove the Jets game TDs from the week before as well, since that don't matter since those teams suck.

Drake has what something aorund 22 TDs now? Stafford as 33...

You're right, the Rams are second in the division. They are still a fifth seed.

I honestly don't discount Stafford for the short TD passes, but you can't ding Maye when his HB's run them in from short yardage. Stafford has stayed in late in games all season while Maye has been taken out early numerous times. Stafford and the Rams had a chance to win the division the past month and a half, and they crumbled, with him being a major reason why.

Other than raw number TD passes and yards which are in large part due to Stafford throwing more, Maye has him beat in almost every important statistical QB metric. At the end of the day, I think both have cases for them and that Stafford is going to win. I just believe that other than the raw numbers and the strength of schedule argument, Maye has a stronger case. At the end of the day, I'd much rather see the Patriots win the Super Bowl than Maye win the MVP.

 

[EzekelRAGE]

Brady basically said both players had great seasons but Maye being young will have more opportunities in the future. That's a Pats legend giving you game on how its gonna go.

Rams effectively being the #2 NFC team will make the non division winner thing easier to accept.

Once you start talking about worse cast you're moving past stats and into narratives. I think that's what's gonna happen with Stafford/Maye. I also think the perception of Purdy being a late round tagalong hurt him.

Media will invent some context as to why those stats don't matter and Stafford deserves it anyway.

Acho sorta discussed this on his show. From the way Acho was talking, he will be voting Maye for MVP. When his cohosts said Matt beat more playoff teams(4 wins against them), while Drake did worse against playoff teams(2-2), he said Matt had better weapons with Puka and future HoF Davontae.
He said he feels Matt will win the award because of the reason Lamar lost it last year, because it would be Matt's first one(last year wouldve been Lamar's 3rd and Josh's first) and Drake will have more time.

Apparently Mina Kimes voted Drake MVP too.

 

[klientel]

You're right, the Rams are second in the division. They are still a fifth seed.

I honestly don't discount Stafford for the short TD passes, but you can't ding Maye when his HB's run them in from short yardage. Stafford has stayed in late in games all season while Maye has been taken out early numerous times. Stafford and the Rams had a chance to win the division the past month and a half, and they crumbled, with him being a major reason why.

Other than raw number TD passes and yards which are in large part due to Stafford throwing more, Maye has him beat in almost every important statistical QB metric. At the end of the day, I think both have cases for them and that Stafford is going to win. I just believe that other than the raw numbers and the strength of schedule argument, Maye has a stronger case. At the end of the day, I'd much rather see the Patriots win the Super Bowl than Maye win the MVP.

Rams have 11 rushing TDs from inside the 5, Patriots have 7 from inside the 5. Yall making it sounds like the Rams RBs are on vacation in the redzone, they are literally more effective down there because of the threat of Stafford passing.

The argument here with the short yardage stuff doesn't make sense

 

[O.iatlhawksfan]

I just think Stafford numbers are better