Who is the best rapper that Jcole is better than?

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Maybe Kodak or Shyne is a better starting place, but I think got both them clear….idk.



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More I think about it, I take back saying Shyne clear.

My initial thought was that I’d take Shyne’s 1 album over over FNL & Warm Up….but that’s a lie. Both them Cole albums carry a lot of nostalgia.

And overall Cole just has so much more out.


Shyne or Cole might be a debate.

The what should’ve been a “good” kid hopeful that had his career go left

Or

The “good” guy whose career went right at pretty much every turn once he got with Roc.
 

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Skillwise, he’s better than a lot of rappers, but there are rappers who made at least one album better than any of his.

I’m a Cole fan, but I can’t say he has a CLASSIC. FHD would be his closest but I can’t call it a classic. I don’t throw around that term loosely.
 

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Skillwise, he’s better than a lot of rappers, but there are rappers who made at least one album better than any of his.

I’m a Cole fan, but I can’t say he has a CLASSIC. FHD would be his closest but I can’t call it a classic. I don’t throw around that term loosely.
Because he has no clear way to get better, he's maxed out everything he can do besides living a more interesting life so he can not be as boring. He doesn't have the long talked about street history of a lupe to give him verses more grit, he wasn't hov moving bricks before rap, he wasn't kendrick living real life Boys in the hood scenes, doesn't have the practiced charisma aubrey learned as an actor

He's if Big Pooh somehow became mainstream

He's the epitome of someone who raps for rap's sake, imo those guys are never gonna be able to compete with anyone who really is on a mission :yeshrug: Tyler mighta had a rougher life than this nikka if you just look at how motivated each of them come off.
 

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No one, he not even top 10 of his era.

Every serious GOAT contender has at least one legendary album. Cole never made one—he’s put out good albums, but nothing truly great. I don’t doubt that his fans enjoyed them, but they still don’t reach that level.


This.
Dud's catalog is weak as fukk from a pure quality angle.

The only post-2010s rapper consistently brought up in that discussion is Kendrick, and that happened after he released multiple universally acclaimed albums. As for Drake, his fans labeled him a legend largely because of his massive commercial success. Ultimately, neither side lacks for supporting arguments. Drake got the massive appeal, Kendrick got the quality and massive acclaim.

Cole though... there’s honestly not much to support that status, mostly just his feature run, and even then, many of those verses sounded interchangeable.

He’s probably the rapper with the weakest case.

Damn… I can’t even argue with that :dead:

I still think Cole is the better rapper, but when it comes to classics, Waka definitely takes it.

The real question is: what talented rapper isn’t better than J. Cole? The man dropped seven albums and multiple mixtapes and his best project still didn’t even get rated as a 7/10.
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I think you start around Fab and work your way down from there.

Fab in his own right is gonna go down in history. So it’s not a slight.



I think just talent wise, I have Fab clear.

But the reason why I say start at Fab is…just discog for discog….if you don’t simply go by top tracks, MAYBE it’s starts to seem somewhat close, idk?

Fab has the more iconic / cultural hits with Breathe & all the R&B feats. As well as the resonating mixtape series. In several aspects Fab just represents a certain era more


….the more I type this post, the more I see my error in starting at Fab :mjlol:







Imma try tho….J Cole’s FNL & Warm Up were splashes and were very significant for his specific era too tho. While I don’t think he can go cultural song for song with Fab….i think the fans of that era would put FNL up against anything Fab related (not saying they right).

Man tbh idk. The best thing Cole has going in these arguments is not really music / discog related. Cole’s best claim to these arguments is the fanbase & popularity he was able to capture just by making relatable, accessible, easy going music with a good flow.

I could literally see you coming to your senses as i was reading the post:mjlol:
 
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