Who is the best rapper that Jcole is better than?

[Devil Plisken…CMS]

I think you start around Fab and work your way down from there.

Fab in his own right is gonna go down in history. So it’s not a slight.



I think just talent wise, I have Fab clear.

But the reason why I say start at Fab is…just discog for discog….if you don’t simply go by top tracks, MAYBE it’s starts to seem somewhat close, idk?

Fab has the more iconic / cultural hits with Breathe & all the R&B feats. As well as the resonating mixtape series. In several aspects Fab just represents a certain era more


….the more I type this post, the more I see my error in starting at Fab







Imma try tho….J Cole’s FNL & Warm Up were splashes and were very significant for his specific era too tho. While I don’t think he can go cultural song for song with Fab….i think the fans of that era would put FNL up against anything Fab related (not saying they right).

Man tbh idk. The best thing Cole has going in these arguments is not really music / discog related. Cole’s best claim to these arguments is the fanbase & popularity he was able to capture just by making relatable, accessible, easy going music with a good flow.

I can’t stand J Cole’s boring music and this reads like insanity

 

[Devil Plisken…CMS]

WE ARE THE STREETS
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Album dies after “Recognize” and that’s the halfway point

 

[Chip Skylark]

Cole is better than Drake simply by proxy of Drake using multiple ghostwriters


I’ll also take Cole over Wale, Meek Mill, Freddie Gibbs, Big Sean, T.I. And Rick Ross

Same

 

[MeachTheMonster]

He’s better than kendrick if we are talking about just rap skills.

He’s better than Drakes writers.

That’s about it. None of them are really breaking top 20.

 

[alpo]

Cole is better than Drake simply by proxy of Drake using multiple ghostwriters


I’ll also take Cole over Wale, Meek Mill, Freddie Gibbs, Big Sean, T.I. And Rick Ross

Rick Ross is lyrically better than him. Freddie too

 

[alpo]

He’s better than kendrick if we are talking about just rap skills.

He’s better than Drakes writers.

That’s about it. None of them are really breaking top 20.

Post his best bars

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Post his best bars

Not gone play the dumb game with you.

Kenny don’t have any “best bars”

He just makes some of you stan’s feel good for whatever reason

 

[Still Benefited]

Cole is better than Drake simply by proxy of Drake using multiple ghostwriters


I’ll also take Cole over Wale, Meek Mill, Freddie Gibbs, Big Sean, T.I. And Rick Ross

Same

Do you realize how much you gotta hate the south to say J Cole is better than T.I



"Bu bu but the Carolinas are east coast like Virginia"

 

[Ziggiy]

Rick Ross is lyrically better than him. Freddie too

No

 

[Chip Skylark]

Do you realize how much you gotta hate the south to say J Cole is better than T.I



"Bu bu but the Carolinas are east coast like Virginia"

I’m from THEE Deep South

J. Cole
Commercial run - 2011-2026. Including falloff 7 number 1 albums. Started headlining arenas 2015 til now.


TI

Commercial “run” : ~2003–2008 (Trap Muzik → Paper Trail) → about 5 years of peak dominance. Decline to least successful album: 2008–2020, with gradual commercial decline over ~12 years. Never headlined his own tour. Headlined arena tours from 06-09.


J. Cole ~ over 40 million records when you account for albums plus streaming and single units and 95 million certified units combining all formats.

T.I. ~14 million albums sold worldwide and many multi-platinum singles, but he doesn’t have a widely published aggregated total of records sold that includes streaming equivalents the way J. Cole does.

J cole washes and I think he raps better than Top too

 

[WTFisWallace?]

No

Ross is easily the better writer.

Also has clear cut better songs and verses.


And not for nothing, in the area of dissing or really saying something….how Ross touched on the (probable) molesting and terrible business practices of Birdman/Cash money on Idols Become Rivals is top tier rapping.


It’s hard to listen to Tears of Joy, Valley of Death, Babies Cry, etc….and then say Cole is the better MC.



Also as an aside…..Champagne Moments and every other diss song has made towards 50, Drake, or anyone else….outclasses the shyt that Cole has put on in the “dissing” realm.

 

[Jasonmask]

He still hasn’t been able to make a better song than the OG in the morning that was over 15 years ago. He can rap but he doesn’t know how to make music his concepts are elementary. I know there’s nothing new under the sun but man try something. The stuff he says might sound cool but there’s no real feeling behind it. There’s not a song where I hear much emotion sometimes he gets mad but I never hear pain in his voice like other artists do.

 

[Mr 18]

He’s better than kendrick if we are talking about just rap skills.

He’s better than Drakes writers.

That’s about it. None of them are really breaking top 20.

Kendrick is objectively way better as far as rapping skills. He also has a legendary discography versus Cole that never made a great album

Kdot is one of the very few rappers that mastered pretty muchy every rapping style lmao. And got the best rythmic transitions since 3k.

He's in discussion for top 5. Cole would be lucky to even be discussed as top 50.

 

[Kiyoshi-Dono]

Cole is better than Drake simply by proxy of Drake using multiple ghostwriters


I’ll also take Cole over Wale, Meek Mill, Freddie Gibbs, Big Sean, T.I. And Rick Ross

You out your rabid ass mind
Yall nikkas are jumping the shark with this glazing
Wale has put out several good projects The Album About Nothing,Folarin and Folarin 2
Meek fell off because unfortunately the Drake “win” crushed his momentum like 50 did to Ja and he hasn’t been able to recover
But you a whole ass lie when yall speak on Meek
Young/hungry Meek would put belt to ass to Jermaine Cole
Ross gave us a generational run with them Maybach produced albums
Gibbs is just a dikkhead but ain’t no fukking way are you putting Jermaine Cole over him genuinely
Tip had another generational run
nikkas hate on Sean for his rhyme scheme but give Jermaine a a pass for his bullshyt rhyme scheme that was exposed
Dark Sky Paradise is a strong ass album with quality material
shyt Finally Famous and Detroit gives Cole a run for his money
Yall nikkas being hella disingenuous and I saw that shift when a Kendrick finally popped out and showed nikkas it’s levels to this shyt
The same points you nikkas give to Cole
Is the same points you take away from other lyricists and rappers
nikkas have put on the infinity gauntlet to bend space and time for this nikka since Like That punched nikkas in the face
What’s truly funny about all this discourse between thecoli and other online nikkas is that for years I saw people call Jermaine Cole NyQuil/Chicken Noodle soup for the soul
The only time he got props was FHD and once them Revenge of the Dreamers mixtapes started coming out
Funny the latter was because he started having nikkas like Bas, Spillage Village, Lute, JiD and others signed to his label
You could see in real time how his music changed and schemes switched up
nikkas are lying they asses off with the defense
Bobolo Boat also changed the perception of Jermaine Cole
That’s when the feature run started and he looked brolic to nikkas all of a sudden
The narratives around this dude are truly perplexing
This is beyond ridiculous at this point

 

[Reptile]

I’ll also take Cole over T.I.

You definitely lost your damn mind