Who Pays on a First Date?

[SheWantTheD]

Right. That's why I said 9/10. There are silly stupid women out there. But most people can weed them out quickly, keep going AND know that the next woman may not be like that. My issue is with guys who act like every woman is using them financially so they are reluctant to pay for date.

I'd rather pay 50/50 on the first date or her pay, as it shows she values my time enough to the point where she'll pay. And if things don't work out, at least I didn't lose too much money.

And I've come across more women who were dishonest and play games then those who didn't. And like you said, once I get a whiff of it I drop them with the quickness and never look back.

 

[cocoabutter27]

I'd rather pay 50/50 on the first date or her pay, as it shows she values my time enough to the point where she'll pay. And if things don't work out, at least I didn't lose too much money.

And I've come across more women who were dishonest and play games then those who didn't. And like you said, once I get a whiff of it I drop them with the quickness and never look back.

I understand what you are saying, but I'm saying that women are taught that if a man won't pay, he's not interested. It sets a tone. In their mind "he wants to go half? He's cheap, financially unstable or just trying to fukk me". Then how she deals with you proceeds from there. I'm not saying its fair to guys, I'm just saying that's how it is. Again...providers and hunters, that's really what women are looking for.

 

[Fani Willis fan]

not paying for someone thats not my gf, unless they're scrambling for change.

 

[skeetsinternal]

He's got a point.

 

[Lo-Co]

Ya'll are gonna die alone and no one will care

Spoiler

 

[GotEmShook]

My first dates consist of dinner at my house. I provide the food and the women cook.

 

[intruder]

HINT: the answer is BOTH. Any other answer from a woman and you are only good for fuccking, not WIFEY material at all



At the beginning you hear what sounds like every woman in the room agreeing that men should always pay. Then, by the end after a simple, logical explanation of why that is wrong, they all change their mind and look at the speaker like hes the greatest guy ever for thinking this.

Totally agree with what he said between 1:38 mark and 1:52 mark.

Also the 3:26 mark to 4:01

 

[Neuromancer]

The same way men get to decide what women are "supposed" to do lol. Men tell their sisters, daughters, friends how a man is supposed to treat them...from a male perspective. So when a woman is not treated that way is she still supposed to think of that guy as a "real" man? Men always talk about being providers and hunters. So if you aren't doing either...then what are you?

Why would a man provide for a woman that has not yet proven she is worth providing for?

 

[intruder]

I do not understand why guys are so reluctant to be men. It's like y'all think every woman is out to use you and cheat on you. You get what you give. Be a good person and 9/10 you will attract good. Start off playing games and being paranoid about your pockets and a woman will act accordingly.

If you read my posts in this thread and any other threads on this subject you will see I'm'm a big advocate of men paying for first dates and most date.

HOWEVER

I do have a problem with women telling me what a man should be like or do. You have no idea what It's like to be a man just like i have no idea what it's like to be woman so it's not my place to tell you how to be a woman nor is it yours to tell me how to be a man. So please tone down that "reluctent to be men" talk. WHoever taught you what "being men" is like taught you their version. There is no universal standard across all cultures that i know of.

 

[cocoabutter27]

Why would a man provide for a woman that has not yet proven she is worth providing for?

It's a date though. Not a wedding. If you were interested enough in the first place then why is she not worth $20 at Starbucks? Why would a woman invest in a man that hasn't proven that he can provide? Chicken/egg kinda thing. If everyone thinks like that then dating is complicated for no reason.

 

[cocoabutter27]

If you read my posts in this thread and any other thread ion this subject you will see u'm a big advocate of men paying for first dates and most date.

HOWEVER

I do have a problem with women telling me what a man should be like or do. You have no idea what its like to be a man just like i have no idea what it's like to be woman so it's not my place to tell you how to be a woman nor is it yours to tell me how to be a man. So please tone down that "reluctent to be men" talk. WHoever taught you what "being men" is like taught you their version. There is no universal standard across all cultures that i know of.

You are right. There is not a standard. Maybe there should be. I base mine on my dad, my grandfathers, my husband and my father in law. All good men.

 

[Sauce Dab]

I didn't take myself on the date so it's 50/50 or what she can chip in. And if she tries to do that lame pump fake where they make it seem like they're trying but really ain't then it's definitely 50/50
Her: so you're really going to make me pay?? That's not gentleman like a real man would pay

(Women love to bring up that "real man" stuff to try to make you feel guilty)

Me: it's 2016 a real woman would pay "

 

[Bless't]

Totally agree with what he said between 1:38 mark and 1:52 mark.

Also the 3:26 mark to 4:01

Completely agree.

 

[™BlackPearl The Empress™]

I don't roll with stingy people. My friends and I always pick up the tab for each other all the time. Nothing worse than grow people trying to nickel and dime a $40 bill.

So I ain't hanging with no one who is below a that standard. If you ask than you pay. I will offer to pay. But I have yet to have a guy take me up on it.

 

[intruder]

I don't roll with stingy people. My friends and I always pick up the tab for each other all the time. Nothing worse than grow people trying to nickel and dime a $40 bill.

So I ain't hanging with no one who is below a that standard. If you ask than you pay. I will offer to pay. But I have yet to have a guy take me up on it.

I agree

I absolutely hate splitting checks. Either you take it or i do. If it's just the two of us i'll pick it up 80-90% of the time but i need to see some effort from the chick too