Who Pays on a First Date?

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Society has men expecting men to take pride in being "men" while femininity trends towards fluidity.

Do what you want to do, but above all don't think it's manly to be taken advantage of. Live for yourself, not for the approval of women who see you as disposable
 

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Cats who said they go 50/50 on first dates because u aren't sure if she's worth paying for yet, I have a question. If she wanted to pay the whole bill on the first date, would u be against that too? :sas2:You're still "getting to know each other", right? Are you against paying the whole thing with your money, but A-OK with her paying the whole thing if she were willing?
 

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Once you realize what type of woman you really want, it should be no issue paying for a date.

When you are just dating to date, is when you don't feel like wasting your money.
 

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The same way men get to decide what women are "supposed" to do lol. Men tell their sisters, daughters, friends how a man is supposed to treat them...from a male perspective. So when a woman is not treated that way is she still supposed to think of that guy as a "real" man?

How receptive are you to a man telling you how to be a woman? Most women I know would laugh a guy trying to tell them how they need to act.

It seems that men are telling women how to be women, women see it as sexist and finding offense to it, but still turn around and try to tell men how to be men.
 

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I do not understand why guys are so reluctant to be men. It's like y'all think every woman is out to use you and cheat on you. You get what you give. Be a good person and 9/10 you will attract good. Start off playing games and being paranoid about your pockets and a woman will act accordingly.

I don't think every woman is out there intentionally using guys (although a lot are). However, a lot of women want to date a variety of men before choosing one. They really don't have a strong interest of most of these men, but just want to see what is out there. So you end up wasting your time and energy on women that aren't really feeling you like that.

This is why you're better off dating women you already know fairly well. The dating process goes much better if chemistry has been established before the date. Even if we go back to the old courting days, men courted women they knew for years. I'm pretty sure the smart dudes courted women that they already knew liked them. Women had a lot less options then as well, so that also helped.

I think men should pay for the first date, but we need to be smarter about who we are willing to take out. I'm at the point where it needs to be obvious that she's attracted to me before I'm willing to spend a dime on her.
 

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I actually thought the bloke made a reasonable, strong argument.

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