Who started the narrative that Lebron isn't clutch?

[homiedontplaydat]

You mean that team that swept Kobe and the defending champions in 4 straight so badly that you had Lakers committing flagrants out of sheer frustration.

Again so Kobe going out and losing a 3-1 lead against the Suns and dropping a 2 point half in a game 7 isn't him going down without swinging?

So the rules are different for Bron or nah?

Man I could care less about Kobe we talking bout Bron

You can be a good player with out being a Killer. Bron ain't no Killer hes just a REALLY talented basketball player......of course he's gonna make plays and have his moments.....but the FACT that him shrinking under pressure has cost him AT LEAST one ring has to be spoken to.

2011 will haunt him forever, when the next young bul comes along and they're ready to crown him over lebron rest assure their gonna use that 2011 series in their arguments....and it's gonna be hard for u stans to overcome that unless Bron gets a couple more rings

 

[Jordan>>LeFrozen]

None of that shyt matters. Who won more as the main guy? Who has more FMVPs? Who has better playoff and regular season numbers? Who has better final numbers?? Who is a better game 7 performer?

Oh yes the fukk it does matter. You want to cry about why Bron ain't more clutch bring up mamba, like mamba wasn't 22-24 going up against prime Spurs, prime kings, prime AI. Lebron can have all that and never will be more received than Kobe as far as clutch players go. That's not opinions that's fact. Never once one kobes career did nikkas question his killer instinct.
Never once did nikkas question whether Kobe will take the shot. Never once did nikkas like Skip Baylee's fix their lips to say Kobe doesn't need the ball in his hands at crunch time, and to answer your questions
Kobe is 3rd in most points in the regular season and post season, so who has more points? Lebron is 4th in post season and 9/10 all time, so who has more points? KOBE. Who has more finals numbers? The one that has more points in the finals than lebron, KOBE. Who has more fmvps? Yea Bron got that. And? tim Duncan got 3, Kareem got 2, who puts Duncan over Kareem? Oh ok then

 

[KRiLL (+)]

Oh yes the fukk it does matter. You want to cry about why Bron ain't more clutch bring up mamba, like mamba wasn't 22-24 going up against prime Spurs, prime kings, prime AI. Lebron can have all that and never will be more received than Kobe as far as clutch players go. That's not opinions that's fact. Never once one kobes career did nikkas question his killer instinct.
Never once did nikkas question whether Kobe will take the shot. Never once did nikkas like Skip Baylee's fix their lips to say Kobe doesn't need the ball in his hands at crunch time, and to answer your questions
Kobe is 3rd in most points in the regular season and post season, so who has more points? Lebron is 4th in post season and 9/10 all time, so who has more points? KOBE. Who has more finals numbers? The one that has more points in the finals than lebron, KOBE. Who has more fmvps? Yea Bron got that. And? tim Duncan got 3, Kareem got 2, who puts Duncan over Kareem? Oh ok then

Kobe gave up in the 2nd half vs the Suns in the playoffs, that's just hoe shyt i never seen before... took like 2 shots... has Kobe ever got to a Conference Finals without Pau or Shaq? you nikkas stan a dude who snitched to the cops...

 

[JameisNewton]

Kobe gave up in the 2nd half vs the Suns in the playoffs, that's just hoe shyt i never seen before... took like 2 shots... has Kobe ever got to a Conference Finals without Pau or Shaq? you nikkas stan a dude who snitched to the cops...

you gotta be one effeminate fakkit to cape for a man who can't produce a single son in three tries over a man who already has 2, with at least one ready to take his spot in the NBA in the next 8 years

 

[Shadow King]

Entering Monday, James was 1-for-his-past-17 and 2-for-his-past-31 on go-ahead or game-tying 3-point attempts in the final five seconds of regulation or overtime.


I, not even gonna quote the whole thread lmao

So now 2 pointers don't count?

 

[GoddamnyamanProf]

Bron is one of the most clutch ever

 

[Art Barr]

Imo it's not about how many game winners LeBron has made, it's more about his WILLINGNESS to take that shot.

Alot of Bron apologists will point to him "making the right play" during those crunch time moments......which he has at times but there have also been times where he DEFERRED to a less talented player instead of taking over. Bron is getting better stepping up when he needs to, but he's not cut from the same cloth as a Jordan, Kobe, or even IT in Boston right now.

You gotta be born with that dawg in u and LeBron just doesn't have it. One instance that always stood out to me was when Lebron wouldnt take that shot against Kobe at the Allstar game



That clip says it all

If Bron had TRUE KILLER INSTINCT he would be practically unstoppable. He reminds me of the character Gladiator from Marvel....when Lebron is front running he's damn near unstoppable, but once a hint of doubt enters his mind he can crumble like he did in 2011.

this.

he has to be front running or in extreme desperation at the point of no return to even think to be on trying to finish.
till the pistons game, he had all those similar oppurtunities to dead the pistons, previously in offs before that.
it was not until the idea he could not beat the pistons did he finally rise up.
same with the spurs series in his first finals which was all his fault.
all cause he would not commit to being a dribble drive player who used artistry playing above the rim to his advantage.
like someone psyche'd him out years ago on not using his size to his advantage.
same with the heat,....he thought in the finals d wade was going to save him and was passive the entire series.

only when his back is against the wall and it could be a definitive milestone loss, will sumfin kick in for lebron.

when you supposed to be ready to kill off top, period.
especially being that big, the biggest and fastest person with the ball in the league and league history.
his lack of pedigree shows and it fails him.
when, if he had a high bball iq as advertised. he would have willed his way and won in any high stress moment of his career.


art barr

 

[Art Barr]

In other words not enough fade away 20 footers over a triple team.

mj made those and routinely did it with ease against people he previously made a name on for it too.

to close out series not once but twice in the same manner with triple the number of defenders on him.

not to mention, for every bron dribble drive winner, mj also has those as well in larger amounts in closer succession in a higher iq based era as well.

nikkaz like making these statements, but you can't put that fake shyt against the real ice.





art barr

 

[ISO]

Act like Kobe didn't play with Shaq while LeBron was dolo at the same stage of his career brehs

Act like the '04 Finals didn't happen brehs

Act like Kobe didn't quit against the Suns brehs

Act like Kobe isn't a pitiful game 7 performer highlighted by his 6 of 24 Game 7 performance in 2010 where he was bailed out by Artest and Gasol brehs

Act like LeBron isn't a better clutch player in just about anything that constitutes being a clutch player brehs.

Act like LeBron doesn't have one of the highest 4th quarter scoring average seasons in modern history back in '09, act like he isn't near the top of 82games.com's clutch stats year in year out, act like he isn't the premier close out performer in NBA history, act like he doesn't have the most GW's in NBA playoff history, act like LeBron didn't just take down a 73-9 team leading the Finals in every major statistical category and having the greatest defensive moment in NBA playoff history, act like LeBron doesn't have some of the G.O.A.T. games the playoffs have seen like his 48 (29 of last 30) against Detroit and 45/15/5 on 73% against Boston on the road facing elimination brehs.

Think being clutch is all about highlight fadeaway jumpers and mean mug faces brehs

 

[Big Boss]

Man I could care less about Kobe we talking bout Bron

You can be a good player with out being a Killer. Bron ain't no Killer hes just a REALLY talented basketball player......of course he's gonna make plays and have his moments.....but the FACT that him shrinking under pressure has cost him AT LEAST one ring has to be spoken to.

2011 will haunt him forever, when the next young bul comes along and they're ready to crown him over lebron rest assure their gonna use that 2011 series in their arguments....and it's gonna be hard for u stans to overcome that unless Bron gets a couple more rings

Damn that's a good point

 

[ISO]

Now wtf was Bron doing? Going 22 on 35% against the Spurs when he was the same age Kobe was in 2001?

Kobe was playing with Shaq at 22. LeBron in the Finals was stranded, Larry Hughes had a torn plantar fascia and was replaced by rookie Boobie Gibson. The Spurs were the top ranked defense in the league and zoned him heavily. Kobe would have also been swept and shot terrible percentages on that team at 22.

 

[Mantis Toboggan M.D.]

Kobe was playing with Shaq at 22. LeBron in the Finals was stranded, Larry Hughes had a torn plantar fascia and was replaced by rookie Boobie Gibson. The Spurs were the top ranked defense in the league and zoned him heavily. Kobe would have also been swept and shot terrible percentages on that team at 22.

You mean like how he shot at 22 against the pacers ?

 

[Bilz]

Entering Monday, James was 1-for-his-past-17 and 2-for-his-past-31 on go-ahead or game-tying 3-point attempts in the final five seconds of regulation or overtime.


I, not even gonna quote the whole thread lmao

Espn posted those ugly ass numbers for Kobe over the years too and you stans always said it was an arbitrary stat.

 

[Mantis Toboggan M.D.]

Espn posted those ugly ass numbers for Kobe over the years too and you stans always said it was an arbitrary stat.

Kobe stans don't live in reality

 

[Chris Cool]

kobe was known as the "best closer in the game", that is a reality.