Who will be the first rapper to claim #ADOS?

[Roland Coltrane]

@Get These Nets yo I said it, repped my guy after because I realize sometimes I get pissed when I hear people talk history that isn’t all the way real. I’m getting my PhD in this shyt and I spend a lot of time in real life deflecting bs. I apologized though bc we as black have to have more patience with each other but...

I wish people would ask more questions instead of making statements because others read that shyt and run with it. I’m knee deep in Afro American studies, I wish me, @Booksnrain and @xoxodede could start a black history Ados thread where people could ask the questions they want to know more about and we clear it up from them. We can’t have misinformation spread about our history

@IllmaticDelta and @Akan know a lot of stuff too

 

[NoMoreWhiteWoman2020]

Most New Orleans Creoles were already around. He keeps hyping Haiti but that exchange was minimal, like a few thousand people.

That few people scared many whites bc they were scared of the revolution coming over here. Many states started to make stricter laws governing slavery and rebellions began to be blamed on slaves with “bad blood” from Haiti.

BUT since we bringing up Louisiana, let’s talk about how the largest slave rebellion in America was there https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1811_German_Coast_uprising
Right up the coast from New Orleans.

Check out Black New Orleans by John Blassingame

Peace and love, gotta start speaking better to our folks. We are too hard on each other.

 

[GMoney]

Wait, can I still claim ADOS if my grandma was born in ST Thomas

Being multi-ethnic is a thing. ADOS is not the equivalent of whiteness where you get axed for having one drop. You either have ados lineage or you don't. The lineage requirements for reparations is another story though and will have to be deliberated on.

 

[NoMoreWhiteWoman2020]

@IllmaticDelta and @Akan know a lot of stuff too

@Indiglow Meta (R$G) , start the thread breh and let’s just make it a catch all for all questions related to black, Ados, or history questions in general

 

[get these nets]

so there's no room for people's views and opinions to change over time? is this supposed to be some kind of gotcha moment? if something makes sense to you then why wouldn't you change your views when presented with information that resonates with who you are presently?
I don't think the same way I did 6 years ago, 4 years ago, 2 years ago, shyt even 1 year ago.

If you hear the references he makes to the Whitney tv movie, you can pinpoint exactly what year and month the clip is from.

People can from their own opinions about whether they think TN is sincere and genuine. Whether his views are evolved, or whether he's hitching rides on waves. I think you know what I think.

Normally complete 180 changes in stance occur gradually ,say from idealistic youth to pragmatic early middle age. Drastic changes in stances that occur over a shorter time period are generally a reaction to a life changing event.....or done for political purposes.

Person who traveled the country and world as TN has over the years, and whose livelihood is based on having his finger on the pulse of African and diaspora Africans........I can't think of anything new that he's seen that he didn't see before.

 

[Stick Up Kid]

Okay, what's your point?

shut up dummy

 

[ultraflexed]

this is funny.......and interesting...................kanye initially was with dame after the split......

jay z's wife is of creole descent, which if you go back far enough often points to st. domingue aka Haiti, so I think to keep his wife happy, he won't do it.

the real reason jay won't do it
to paraphrase Jordan "non AAs buy concert tickets too"

#not a businessman, a business, man

Haiti creoles, and southern USA creoles are 2 different groups, you dont need haiti lineage to be creole.., both had French slave masters though

 

[ultraflexed]

Um

Aren't you either

ADOS

or not?

So like.. I can claim Christian. Maybe I truly believe and maybe I don't. That's why I make a proclamation. Cause there's no way to measure it. And its not a factual type of thing so its not even subject to science. Right?

I'm ADOS. I guess. Seen the slave grounds of both sides. Both parents straight from the southern clay.

Its like my height. Or my weight. I don't claim overweight. If I claim to not have a beer belly it doesn't matter. I have one.

I think most American Black people are ADOS.. no? Most rappers?

I'm not against Black people who came here after slavery ended

Y'all know that islanders and south American Black folks are here for the same reason ADOS are. Right? Slavery.

I haven't bothered to dig into the ADOS thing so maybe I'm missing something. Wait. No. If y'all are tripping on something that divides Black people in America in 2019 then y'all are missing something. I don't need to drill down into anything divisive.

ADOS is about American descendants of slaves getting reparations from U.S. Slave masters

 

[get these nets]

Most New Orleans Creoles were already around. He keeps hyping Haiti but that exchange was minimal, like a few thousand people.

Two things.

You've mistakenly assumed that any of this is personal. If you know the history of Haiti, you'd know that it's essentially two separate groups.I have very little in common with the gens de couleur group. Not sure how you figure that I'm hyping Haiti or people that I do not have personal ties with

Second, the facts don't support what you're saying. Look up the last census numbers for Louisiana under Spanish and compare them for the first census numbers and records for Louisiana under U.S. rule in 1810. Look at the estimated numbers for free people of color and/ or mixed race Creoles in 1810. Compare that number to the documented number of gens de couleur who entered that territory after the Haitian Revolution. And say with a straight face that it was a minimal addition.


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Also read about which areas where settled, who lived where, and how important New Orleans was to the entire territory before the US purchased it.

 

[Ghost Utmost]

ADOS is about American descendants of slaves getting reparations from U.S. Slave masters

so

Wanting to get money is one thing. Drives a lot of activity in this world

But Logic is another thing. Logic says that the Brazilian DOS is almost identical to the American DOS except for the boat turned left or right on the way there from Africa, right?

So wouldn't that make all Black DOS the same group?

So another way to describe the reason we are dividing Black people up into groups. Telling some groups to HYON

Greed

 

[Samori Toure]

@IllmaticDelta and @Akan know a lot of stuff too

You should also include @Diasporan Royalty.

 

[Samori Toure]

Two things.

You've mistakenly assumed that any of this is personal. If you know the history of Haiti, you'd know that it's essentially two separate groups.I have very little in common with the gens de couleur group. Not sure how you figure that I'm hyping Haiti or people that I do not have personal ties with

Second, the facts don't support what you're saying. Look up the last census numbers for Louisiana under Spanish and compare them for the first census numbers and records for Louisiana under U.S. rule in 1810. Look at the estimated numbers for free people of color and/ or mixed race Creoles in 1810. Compare that number to the documented number of gens de couleur who entered that territory after the Haitian Revolution. And say with a straight face that it was a minimal addition.


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Also read about which areas where settled, who lived where, and how important New Orleans was to the entire territory before the US purchased it.

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Your statement is kind of misleading. You should at least mention that the USA had just completed the Louisiana Purchase in 1803 so technically any Black people brought into Louisiana after that purchase was probably a person that was being sold from plantations in the Upper South (Virginia, Tennessee, North Carolina and Kentucky). In fact the sale of slaves from the Upper South (which was called being "Sold Down the River") flooded that State with slaves, which made New Orleans the largest slave market in America.

NPR Choice page

 

[get these nets]

Your statement is kind of misleading. You should at least mention that the USA had just completed the Louisiana Purchase in 1803 so technically any Black people brought into Louisiana after that purchase was probably a person that was being sold from plantations in the Upper South (Virginia, Tennessee, North Carolina and Kentucky). In fact the sale of slaves from the Upper South (which was called being "Sold Down the River") flooded that State with slaves, which made New Orleans the largest slave market in America.

NPR Choice page

Wasn't misleading at all. The discussion wasn't about influx of enslaved Africans but about impact of the mixed race St. Dom. free men on the existing population of free men and/ or Creoles in Louisiana.

 

[Roland Coltrane]

some of you nikkas just don't mind being cucked huh?

iono bout this one breh

how are we being cucked?

 

[TEH]

Killer Mike - every other answer is wrong.