Who will be the first rapper to claim #ADOS?

[Akae Beka]

Do US Virgin Islanders consider themselves American? I remember in college my friends and I were talking to this US VI girl and at one point she got heated because...I remember now, she was trying to get us to stop saying nikka, and at some point one of us said something like, "Well, you know, it's just something we do in America," and she snapped back, "I know, I am from the *US* Virgin Islands!" Like she was upset that we didn't recognize her Americanness.

We consider ourselves Virgin Islanders but we are American and has been for the past 100 years. Same government system slightly different legislative. In schools they teach you primarily american curriculum, so compared to a lot of other island nations, we know about American history here, before we come stateside. Lots of Virgin Islanders been coming stateside to orlando and tampa and NYC since early 1900s. So I guess she felt away, thinking possibly you guys were being ignorant for not knowing that since its apart of the U.S

 

[xoxodede]

You should also include @Diasporan Royalty.

and @Supper

 

[TripleAgent]

shut up dummy

Very articulate, well thought out retort, sir




Clown

 

[Black_Panther_JS]

What do these terms mean, Coli always got these acronyms i never know wtf they mean

EDIT: I googled it

 

[sportscribe]

They wouldn't get anything and that's already been discussed. They lived white lives and have no claim + minimal lineage. Your "gotcha" isn't new. Keep the fake "not to antagonize" disclaimer to yourself.

It's not a "gotcha". You're getting your feathers ruffled by a simple question.

I thought it was about ancestry at the end of the day. What about mixed people? The thing is that you have a myopic level of thinking. It's not like there is a one size fits all approach to the reparations discussion. You think your own idealistic kind of thinking will have a real impact when its time to start passing bills on the floor?

 

[Cadillac]

@Indiglow Meta (R$G) , start the thread breh and let’s just make it a catch all for all questions related to black, Ados, or history questions in general

can you @ the ADOS gang, im sure there are others like me who would like to learn some new things and even share some stuff

edit: I think we have one already

 

[NoMoreWhiteWoman2020]

can you @ the ADOS gang, im sure there are others like me who would like to learn some new things and even share some stuff

edit: I think we have one already

Where it’s at? Put me on

 

[Heelish]

The Informant

 

[LunaticVillage415]

ADOS is weird because all of the Africans, Afro-Latinos and Islanders in real life make it clear that they don't see themselves as the same as American black folks. Africans, Afro-Latinos and Islanders be on that wave heavy. They only claim black when it's convenient (i.e. "dating" an American black person, culture vulturing whatever is hot that moment in black pop culture, performing American black music, trying to get further in a bid in the oppression Olympics). The Coli is the only place I know where Africans and Afro-Latinos think they are the face of black people in Amerikkka. And the whole ADOS tag is ambigious because Africans in the Caribbean and Latin America were slaves too. Is it African descendants of slaves or American descendants of slaves? It's not clear.

 

[BuckFilly]

Please be yeezuz....them new shoes hittin

 

[Savvir]

jay z's wife is of creole descent, which if you go back far enough often points to st. domingue aka Haiti,

most american creole's lineage goes back to french owned Louisiana...

what country are you really from?

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Jay just put a Haitian fashion designer on.
and Beyonce prominently displays Yoruba culture/spirituality in her visuals. He's not the one

Pro-ADOS doesn't mean anti non-ADOS

I have done Mr. Knowles Genealogy --due to some shared ancestors --- and his ancestors are straight from Bama and enslaved there.

Check it here as well: Mathew Knowles

The Paternal Family History of Beyoncé
October 17, 2018Brad Greenland


Beyoncé Knowles is one of the biggest pop stars in the world selling millions of records and performing all over the world. But where does she come from? In this blog post, we will focus on the family history of the Knowles family.

What We Know:
Beyoncé Knowles
Born: September 4, 1981, in Houston, Texas

Parents of Beyoncé
Matthew Knowles:

Born: January 9th, 1951 in Gadsden, Alabama

Célestine Ann Beyincé

Born: January 4th, 1954 in Galveston, Texas



The Parents of Matthew Knowles:

Matthew Knowles was born January 9th 1951 in Gadsden, Alabama to Matthew Q Knowles and Lue Helen. Matthew Knowles married Célestine Ann Beyincé on January 5th 1980. Before their divorce in 2011, Matthew and Celestine had three children, Beyonce, Solange, and Koi.



The Family of Matthew Q Knowles
Matthew Q Knowles was born April 4th, 1927 in Gadsden, Alabama to Taylor Knowles and Gunnie Mae Miller. Matthew Q Knowles had seven siblings including, Taylor J Knowles (1922-unknown), Martha (May 24th, 1924-May 6th 1998), Horace (22 Oct 1925-?), Earnest (July 9th 1928-January 21 2013), Leon (1931-unknown), Warren (December 28th 1933-August 6th 2010), and Dorothy Ann (1936-unknown).



Matthew Q Knowles In World War Two
On April 5th, 1945, a day after his 18th birthday, Matthew Q Knowles registered for the draft. When he registered, he was working at Stamps & Co in Gadsden, Alabama. He was living at home in Gadsden, Alabama on 904 Tuscaloosa Street.

Beyoncé’s Great-Grandfather Taylor Knowles
Taylor Knowles was born March 5th, 1899 in Cherokee, Alabama to James Issac Knowles and Sarah Dixon. Taylor was the oldest of eight children, six girls, and two boys. When Taylor Knowles was 19, he registered for the draft to serve his country in World War One. During this time, it can be seen that Taylor was working for his father James (Ike) Knowles as a farm hand in Gaylesville, Alabama.

On March 2, 1922, Taylor Knowles would marry Gunnie Mae Miller in Chattooga County, Georgia.

They would move to Gadsden, Alabama shortly after and have nine children together and would live there until Taylor’s death in May of 1975.



James Issac “Ike” Knowles and Sarah Dixon


James Knowles was born in February 1867 in Georgia to Henry and Mimmie Knowles where he would live until his marriage on July 11th, 1898. During his life, James Issac Knowles worked as a farmer until his death on July 4th, 1949.



The Life of Beyoncé’s 3rd Great-Grandfather Henry Knowles
Due to the year that Beyoncé’s 2nd great-grandfather was born, it can be assumed that this is where we will be met with the unfortunate reality that her 3rd great-grandfather was born into slavery.

In order to find this, we will have to look at the slave schedules for 1860 for a slave owner with the last name of Knowles. In doing so, I was able to locate the name of Henry Knowles on the 1860 slave schedule with his owner JB Knowles.

During the reconstruction era after the end of the Civil War, Henry Knowles took advantage of his newly found freedom and registered to vote in the next election in Chattooga, Georgia.

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Sources:

• Beyoncé - Wikipedia
• Mathew Knowles - Wikipedia
• Texas Department of State Health Services; Austin, Texas
• Social Security Death Index: Issue State: Alabama; Issue Date: Before 1951
• The National Archives in St. Louis, Missouri; St. Louis, Missouri; Record Group: Records of the Selective Service System, 147; Box: 157
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[you're NOT "n!ggas"]

Pro-ADOS doesn't mean anti non-ADOS

I'm not reading all that.
Jay still ain't the one.


If I had to pick anyone I'd say KRIT or possibly David Banner, but even they have their Pan Africanist leanings.... and I understand that's despised, so... shyt

 

[Budda]

It won’t be a rapper from New York that’s for sure, I feel there is too much Caribbean influence in that city for a rapper to support a term which is in my opinion perfectly acceptable and commendable but can be divisive, in regards to the leaders of the movement such as Tariq Nasheed coming across dubious to people’s that are non fba.

The Nas, Jayz’s are included in this, especially Nas who really despite an album like Untitled being a staple point album for AADOS more than any hip hop album in recent years, he has always supported and come from a Pan Africanist angle in my opinion albums like Distant Relatives are proof of this, his ideals has always been around bringing together rather than dividing or telling another group of Black people to hold their own nuts lol.

If there is a rapper to come out and start brandishing the term I think it would definitely be a southern rapper, so Killer Mike possibly, more likely David Banner and even then Banner is more Pan Africanist in my opinion.

It will take some years basically, every pro black rapper has always leaned to the pan African angle simply because before the leaders of black movements were people like Tariq Nasheed, it was John Henrik Clarke Malcolm X Farrakhan Stokely Carmichael Marcus Garvey Dr Ben and people’s like this whole intention was to try bridge the gap between the continental Africans and those in the diaspora including peoples from the Caribbean and Afro Latinos.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

It will take some years basically, every pro black rapper has always leaned to the pan African angle simply because before the leaders of black movements were people like Tariq Nasheed, it was John Henrik Clarke Malcolm X Farrakhan Stokely Carmichael Marcus Garvey Dr Ben and people’s like this whole intention was to try bridge the gap between the continental Africans and those in the diaspora including peoples from the Caribbean and Afro Latinos.

You can be pro Afram and still be a PanAfricanist

The purpose of the OAAU was to fight for the human rights of African Americans and promote cooperation among Africans and people of African descent in the Americas.

Economic Security: "After the Emancipation Proclamation ... it was realized that the Afro-American constituted the largest homogeneous ethnic group with a common origin and common group experience in the United States