Who will be the first rapper to claim #ADOS?

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Definitely gotta figure it out because the government will use "who is ADOS or not" as a reason not to pay back reparations.

People like Henry Louis Gates and Quincy Jones are like 55 to 65% black but no one would ever call them anything but AA. Tom Joyner is lighter than most Latinos but both his parents are AA (gets his complexion from his dad).

What if Random Sista has an ADOS momma and a Nigerian dad? How does she compare to someone that has all American relatives going back to before the Revolution, but they only test out at 60% black.....and all their grandparents were technically listed as "Negro" on the government census?
 

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Swear only you dweebs on the internet ever claim or preach this ados shyt...I've literally never interacted with a single black american in real life that cared about any of that shyt
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This is a sample of 2020 census. Notice something? :sas2:
 

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Definitely gotta figure it out because the government will use "who is ADOS or not" as a reason not to pay back reparations.

People like Henry Louis Gates and Quincy Jones are like 55 to 65% black but no one would ever call them anything but AA. Tom Joyner is lighter than most Latinos but both his parents are AA (gets his complexion from his dad).

What if Random Sista has an ADOS momma and a Nigerian dad? How does she compare to someone that has all American relatives going back to before the Revolution, but they only test out at 60% black.....and all their grandparents were technically listed as "Negro" on the government census?

She would be half ADOS.

I personally dont think anyone is getting a check. I am sure it be resources, credits land grants, health care, education credits and other things - wiping out certain debt, that help to correct the massive injustices and grimey things they did to our ancestors from enslavement up till today.
 

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To showcase our ancestors were enslaved in America -- not anywhere else. As a unique marker -- just like "Caribbean" DOS.
The original acronym pointed to the specific region in the diaspora, and also used the term coined by a noted member of that heritage, Jesse Jackson. I've always read that people got on board for the switch from Black to "African American" term as a way to acknowledge history and embrace African roots. The removal of the A from AADOS seems like a rejection of Africa...figuratively and literally.

At the end of the day, it was her right to alter the acronym that she helped popularize.
 

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The original acronym pointed to the specific region in the diaspora, and also used the term coined by a noted member of that heritage, Jesse Jackson. I've always read that people got on board for the switch from Black to "African American" term as a way to acknowledge history and embrace African roots. The removal of the A from AADOS seems like a rejection of Africa...figuratively and literally.

At the end of the day, it was her right to alter the acronym that she helped popularize.

Got it. No, Jesse made that decision and we had no choice.

Most Black Americans never started saying they were African American - they always said Black.

Jesse had the ears and eyes of whites back then - therefore he made that push and they accepted it. It was major pushback.

I know of a few pieces that talked about how Black Americans were proud of being called just Black - cause at one time they were not down with it.

Then came the black power movement and James Brown's I'm black and I'm proud - and Nina's "Young Gifted and Black." And our people loved it -- and didnt want to be removed from it.

Black used to mean ADOS in the States - now it's for everyone who has melanated skin.
 

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Got it. No, Jesse made that decision and we had no choice.

Most Black Americans never started saying they were African American - they always said Black.

Jesse had the ears and eyes of whites back then - therefore he made that push and they accepted it. It was major pushback.

I know of a few pieces that talked about how Black Americans were proud of being called just Black - cause at one time they were not down with it.

Then came the black power movement and James Brown's I'm black and I'm proud - and Nina's "Young Gifted and Black." And our people loved it -- and didnt want to be removed from it.

Black used to mean ADOS in the States - now it's for everyone who has melanated skin.

There's Black and then there's black.
 

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Got it. No, Jesse made that decision and we had no choice.

Most Black Americans never started saying they were African American - they always said Black.

Jesse had the ears and eyes of whites back then - therefore he made that push and they accepted it. It was major pushback.

I know of a few pieces that talked about how Black Americans were proud of being called just Black - cause at one time they were not down with it.

Then came the black power movement and James Brown's I'm black and I'm proud - and Nina's "Young Gifted and Black." And our people loved it -- and didnt want to be removed from it.

Black used to mean ADOS in the States - now it's for everyone who has melanated skin.
I read that calling somebody "Black" used to fighting words back in the day. (that was true all across the diaspora)

I would disagree to some extent about what the term "Black" meant once it was embraced......the one who coined the term "Black Power" was Stokely Carmichael (K.Toure) was Trini......and I thought the term meant Black Americans, more specifically Blacks IN America. UnIess I have the dates incorrect "Black Power" as a slogan and mindset was before James Brown's record . Though clearly JB was more influential to people embracing the term "Black". I think in that era, people saw things more along racial lines.

I thought the term AA was more specific....and was directly addressing people with pre civil war roots in this country.Also that it embraced a term "African" that used to be fighting words if you called somebody that. I thought the term got traction and momentum from the same circle that created and pushed for national recognition of Black History Month, AA academia. I'm sure the release and success of Roots as book and mini series had a lot to do with African American catching on. Also, one of the victories of the Black Power Movement was the creation of Af-Ams or Black Studies Dept.s across universities. It's not surprising that the push for national recognition for the contributions that AAs made to American history would come from this circle, who had access to what was erased from history books.
Jackson coined it at a speech I guess, or he coined it to the press. He had the visibility to push it.

Dr John Henrik Clarke, who lived long enough to see several terms applied to his ethnic group, endorsed the term African American over Black . He said "a group 's name has to reflect culture and nationality, black tells you how you look doesn't tell you who you are"

Black used to mean ADOS in the States - now it's for everyone who has melanated skin
speaking of melanoid...here is a clip of what today's "Foundational Black American" hashtag promoter was running with a few years back
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The clip isn't a response to you or anything you said...I just like to point out TN's hypocrisy when I get a chance to. My opinion doesn't matter and shouldn't to how other people identify....but people doing complete 180s on stances is noteworthy
 

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I read that calling somebody "Black" used to fighting words back in the day. (that was true all across the diaspora)

I would disagree to some extent about what the term "Black" meant once it was embraced......the one who coined the term "Black Power" was Stokely Carmichael (K.Toure) was Trini......and I thought the term meant Black Americans, more specifically Blacks IN America. UnIess I have the dates incorrect "Black Power" as a slogan and mindset was before James Brown's record . Though clearly JB was more influential to people embracing the term "Black". I think in that era, people saw things more along racial lines.

I thought the term AA was more specific....and was directly addressing people with pre civil war roots in this country.Also that it embraced a term "African" that used to be fighting words if you called somebody that. I thought the term got traction and momentum from the same circle that created and pushed for national recognition of Black History Month, AA academia. I'm sure the release and success of Roots as book and mini series had a lot to do with African American catching on. Also, one of the victories of the Black Power Movement was the creation of Af-Ams or Black Studies Dept.s across universities. It's not surprising that the push for national recognition for the contributions that AAs made to American history would come from this circle, who had access to what was erased from history books.
Jackson coined it at a speech I guess, or he coined it to the press. He had the visibility to push it.

Dr John Henrik Clarke, who lived long enough to see several terms applied to his ethnic group, endorsed the term African American over Black . He said "a group 's name has to reflect culture and nationality, black tells you how you look doesn't tell you who you are"


speaking of melanoid...here is a clip of what today's "Foundational Black American" hashtag promoter was running with a few years back
cued up


The clip isn't a response to you or anything you said...I just like to point out TN's hypocrisy when I get a chance to. My opinion doesn't matter and shouldn't to how other people identify....but people doing complete 180s on stances is noteworthy


Apparently, it was for some. I think it was more so due to "black" meant "dark" to many -- and we had colorism issues -- and dark sadly meant ugly to many -- and we see that is still a issue for many today.

African-American --was used by white yes -- because they knew our origin -- as we did -- but we still knew we were Black/Negro first. I haven't seen in any narratives or studies where Blacks called themselves "African-American" in large numbers or as a description before Jesse.

I used to be ok with African-American - but I prefer Black - and I have only ever heard my family say they were Black - not African-American unless that is the only thing to pick.

On Black Power:

The earliest known usage of the term "Black Power" is found in Richard Wright's 1954 book Black Power.[11] New York politician Adam Clayton Powell Jr. used the term on May 29, 1966 during an address at Howard University: "To demand these God-given rights is to seek black power."[11]


Black Power was popularized by Stokely but not coined -- he was given permission and push to use by the person who coined it -- Willie Ricks.

In fact, “Black Power” had been used as a civil rights rallying phrase by Willie Ricks, an SNCC man, before Carmichael used it on the “March Against Fear”. Ricks was so pleased with the response to the phrase that he urged Carmichael to use it in his speeches. However, not even Ricks could have predicted the response of the crowd to the phrase. Each time Carmichael shouted out “What do we want ?”, the reply “Black Power” got louder and louder. After June 1966, the call also was used by militants in anti-white rhetoric.
 

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I read that calling somebody "Black" used to fighting words back in the day. (that was true all across the diaspora)

I would disagree to some extent about what the term "Black" meant once it was embraced......the one who coined the term "Black Power" was Stokely Carmichael (K.Toure) was Trini......and I thought the term meant Black Americans, more specifically Blacks IN America. UnIess I have the dates incorrect "Black Power" as a slogan and mindset was before James Brown's record . Though clearly JB was more influential to people embracing the term "Black". I think in that era, people saw things more along racial lines.

I thought the term AA was more specific....and was directly addressing people with pre civil war roots in this country.Also that it embraced a term "African" that used to be fighting words if you called somebody that. I thought the term got traction and momentum from the same circle that created and pushed for national recognition of Black History Month, AA academia. I'm sure the release and success of Roots as book and mini series had a lot to do with African American catching on. Also, one of the victories of the Black Power Movement was the creation of Af-Ams or Black Studies Dept.s across universities. It's not surprising that the push for national recognition for the contributions that AAs made to American history would come from this circle, who had access to what was erased from history books.
Jackson coined it at a speech I guess, or he coined it to the press. He had the visibility to push it.

Dr John Henrik Clarke, who lived long enough to see several terms applied to his ethnic group, endorsed the term African American over Black . He said "a group 's name has to reflect culture and nationality, black tells you how you look doesn't tell you who you are"


speaking of melanoid...here is a clip of what today's "Foundational Black American" hashtag promoter was running with a few years back
cued up


The clip isn't a response to you or anything you said...I just like to point out TN's hypocrisy when I get a chance to. My opinion doesn't matter and shouldn't to how other people identify....but people doing complete 180s on stances is noteworthy



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