Who Would You Start Your Team With, Carmelo Or Cp3?

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Point is nice individual numbers alone do nothing for a franchise. CP3 has had his share of shytty rosters too. They both chose their current circumstance so neither really warrants the teammates excuse.

What does this even mean...... neither does any individual numbers in any category.

Of course neither really warrants the teammates excuse.... that doesn't stop this narrative that CP0 needs better teammates or that his teammates need to step up more though does it?

It shouldnt be close because Melo is a 6'8 240 "anamoly" and CP3 is a small pg. Melo has had AI, Billups, and Miller and still hasnt been any more successful teamwise than CP3. SF and PG arent the only two positions...see CP3 running with Blake.

Melo played with those players before his prime, CP0 is playing in his prime with a better squad than Melo has ever had. Which is all besides the point. I gave my reasoning behind why I'd pick Melo without a doubt, and it wasn't at all because i like him more or because i'm championing him over cp0 because i feel the treatment they receive is not equal... like you assumed I did...

the hate for melo in this place is unreal

 

[BelowTheMasonDixon]

You're not winning a chip with MELO as your best player.

Fixed it.

 

[Kd35brah]

Melo is an elite scorer, CP3 is one of 10 very good PGs in the NBA. Melo is a rarer talent, imo.

Lmao.

It's the other way around man.

 

[FTBS]

@Gil Scott-Heroin

I am not pushing any narrative, therefore your constant references to it while talking to me is nothing more than strawmen.

A franchise picking a player is looking to win, not see what individual numbers they put up. with that "prime" shyt. If u are great u are great. Why pick a guy that has to wait til his prime to capitalize on quality teammates? There is always an ecxuse for this guy. An excuse that wont fly for anyone else. nikkas bemoaning inconsistency only to turn around and be inconsistent.

Point blank Melo has done nothing to distinguish himself from CP3 in terms of impact and there is no substantive rebuttal to this.

 

[Kd35brah]

You're not winning a chip with a PG as your best player so Melo.

So the guy with the worst playoff winning percentage in NBA history is your choice?

 

[TOP LAD]

cp never winning a ring EVER
so melo

 

[Thegospel]

fukk Chris Paul. I'd go with Melo just cause I don't want to pay a bytch nikka like him. Flopping costing me series wins and shyt. Melo never had a player as good as Blake.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

@Gil Scott-Heroin

I am not pushing any narrative, therefore your constant references to it while talking to me is nothing more than strawmen..

A franchise picking a player is looking to win, not see what individual numbers they put up. with that "prime" shyt. If u are great u are great. Why pick a guy that has to wait til his prime to capitalize on quality teammates?

You know very well, you can't compare the success they've had and say Melo has played with so and so, when he was only scratching the surface of where he was as a player. What's CP0's excuse then? All I see is you constantly taking away, or highlighting from what Melo hasn't been able to achieve.... yet no word on what CP0 hasn't done....

There's an agenda there, whether you like to acknowledge it or not.

There is always an ecxuse for this guy. An excuse that wont fly for anyone else. nikkas bemoaning inconsistency only to turn around and be inconsistent. .

You can't be serious. Melo is the one that is now afforded all these excuses? This shyt is like the Twilight zone.

[Point blank Melo has done nothing to distinguish himself from CP3 in terms of impact and there is no substantive rebuttal to this.

What is wrong with you? Seriously. You're going over points that I have highlighted as being the same,...... i don't know how many times if I have to say it. I'm taking Melo if I want to start a team.... i never said he definitively was the better player ... i gave my reasoning for why i would pick him when there's a lack of elite wing depth in the league, and that it was the separator because they're in the same tier as players.... i can then balance my squad out more evenly because there's an abundance of guard depth...... i don't have any doubts over picking him over CP0...


why are you turning this into something that it's not?

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Half the league has a All star caliber pg now

Just based on that I'm going Melo

we've been spoiled with Melo,KD, and Bron
those 3 are rare players

WHY IS THIS SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND IF SOMEONE WANTS TO PICK MELO?

 

[FTBS]

You know very well, you can't compare the success they've had and say Melo has played with so and so, when he was only scratching the surface of where he was as a player. What's CP0's excuse then? All I see is you constantly taking away, or highlighting from what Melo hasn't been able to achieve.... yet no word on what CP0 hasn't done....

There's an agenda there, whether you like to acknowledge it or not.





You can't be serious. Melo is the one that is now afforded all these excuses? This shyt is like the Twilight zone.



What is wrong with you? Seriously. You're going over points that I have highlighted as being the same,...... i don't know how many times if I have to say it. I'm taking Melo if I want to start a team.... i never said he was this definitively better player ... i gave my reasoning for why i would pick him when there's a lack of elite wing depth in the league, and that it was the separator because they're in the same tier as players.... i can then balance my squad out more evenly because there's an abundance of guard depth...... i don't have any doubts over picking him over CP0...


why are you turning this into something that it's not?

I said they are even and everything I have said supports that. Wheres the agenda? The agenda is u ingnoring or spinning what has actually occured and riding with this weak ass "bu bu bu there are more pgs" argument when Melo has yet to demonstrate impact greater than a small pg like CP3.

 

[Kill Dat Noize]

knew the vote would be somewhere near that 70/30 range.

just didn't think it would be in favor of melo.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

I said they are even and everything I have said supports that. Wheres the agenda? The agenda is u ingnoring or spinning what has actually occured and riding with this weak ass "bu bu bu there are more pgs" argument when Melo has yet to demonstrate impact greater than a small pg like CP3.

Obviously you missed the 100000000 posts I said there's basically little to no difference in where I'd rank them.... meaning OBVIOUSLY that what impact they have on the game is near identical. Why is it so hard for you to understand that since i view them as near equal players, but would pick Melo without any doubts, because it would be easier for me to replace or close to the production/impact that CP0 provides in the backcourt in the current state the league is in...... because OBVIOUSLY after picking one of the two, you would then have to fill the rest of the positions would you not?


The thread isn't asking -- who do you think the better player is..... if it were that..... i'd probably say 'gun to my head Melo is, but there's basically little to no margin in it, they're both in the tier'.


You have an agenda against Melo. The very fact you're attacking folk for picking Melo and all your other posts i've seen are evidence of this.

 

[No Homo]

WHY IS THIS SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND IF SOMEONE WANTS TO PICK MELO?

Because cp3 is the supposed cream of that crop of pgs.

Im going with melo tho

 

[Kill Dat Noize]

melo is a great scorer, that's about it. he's not an all around great player and he's not a leader. yea he could get you 40 but you're probably not gonna win the game. and don't look for that intensity come playoff time cause it ain't there. plus for such a capable scorer he's too predictable come crunch time. iso dribble, pull up jumper, brick. knicks get the ball again. iso dribble, pull up jumper, brick. this time with 15 seconds left on the shot clock.

what chris paul does for his team is more valuable than any 30 or 40 point game from melo. he gets the entire team involved. not only that but he could also carry the load and take command of the game when needed. he's not just a great player but a leader as well.

cp3 and a complementary #2 >>>>> melo and a complementary #2.

and most of all, if the 2 ever teamed up together... you could bet your ass that cp3 would be the leader out on the floor, not melo. that says it all.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

melo is a great scorer, that's about it. he's not an all around great player and he's not a leader. yea he could get you 40 but you're probably not gonna win the game. and don't look for that intensity come playoff time cause it ain't there. plus for such a capable scorer he's too predictable come crunch time. iso dribble, pull up jumper, brick. knicks get the ball again. iso dribble, pull up jumper, brick. this time with 15 seconds left on the shot clock.

what chris paul does for his team is more valuable than any 30 or 40 point game from melo. he gets the entire team involved. not only that but he could also carry the load and take command of the game when needed. he's not just a great player but a leader as well.

cp3 and a complementary #2 >>>>> melo and a complementary #2.

and most of all, if the 2 ever teamed up together... you could bet your ass that cp3 would be the leader out on the floor, not melo. that says it all.

at all of this.