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Who said he didn't benefit? But at the end of the day, Brady has won under the old rules and has played most of his career with average receivers. Peyton has one ring with weapons like Harrison and Wayne and now what he has in Denver.. :manny:

Brady has also not won under the more QB friendly rules with great weapons around him so what's your point? If he can win with less QB friendly rules and "average" receivers why hasn't he won withe better receivers under the new rules since everything is so attributable to the QB and their weapons and the rules? List for me all the SB won on the strength of WR?
 
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Brady has also not won under the more QB friendly rules with great weapons around him so what's your point? If he can win with less QB friendly rules and "average" receivers why hasn't he won withe better receivers under the new rules? List for me all the SB won on the strength of WR?

The question was answered in this thread already. Brady gave the Patriots the lead in '07. It took a miraculous play to beat them and he had nothing to do with it. :mjpls:
 

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:whoa: let's not go there bruh, let's no forget he had a stallworth and chad Johnson and couldn't get any of them to produce anything :scusthov: peyton would put up goat numbers numbers wit prime moss, welker, stallworth, ben watson, gaffeney, troy brown :lupe: and a great defense
Chad Johnson don't even know how to run a route Brady hasn't had a good receiver since moss
 

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The question was answered in this thread already. Brady gave the Patriots the lead in '07. It took a miraculous play to beat them and he had nothing to do with it. :mjpls:

No it hasn't been. There is no answer for it because it is based on inconsistent fundamental attribution error bullshyt. :mjlol:

Maybe if the greatest offense ever had managed more than 14 pts that miraculous play wouldn't have meant anything. :yeshrug: Last time I checked Mr. Clutch Cool had the ball last and had Randy Moss beating double coverage on 3 separate plays and couldn't even get into field goal range. If you wanna talk about things he had nothing to do with he had nothing to do with a fumble being magically turned into an incomplete pass or a kicker making a 47 yder (that other guys have missed in perfect conditions under such pressure) in swirling snow, or the squad making it through the 2nd half the next week without him on the road, or holding the Greatest show on Turf to 17 and the defense scoring 7 pts of their own, or the defense harassing all the top QBs of the day in the playoff but it's okay to give him credit for all that stuff right? :mjpls:
 

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Brady put his team in field goal position in each of those games (vs. Panthers, vs. Raiders, vs. Rams). But I'll let you tell it. :mjpls:

Why didn't you quote me breh? :mjlol: I know what that means but I'll let you tell it. :laff:

Do you know how many QBs have put their teams in FG position and the kicker missed (including Peyton twice)? I'm not even trying to shyt on Brady or take anything away from him, but the hoops people jump through are just :mindblown:.
 

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Tom Brady had maybe the most stacced team in nfl history in 07


Offense

Welker
Moss (all pro)
Stallworth
Watson

Oline

Matt Light (All Pro)
Logan mankins(pro bowl)
Dan Koppen(Pro bowl)



Defense

Brusci
Rodney harrison
asante samuel (all pro)
Ellis hobbs
Seymor
Ty warren
Vrabel (all pro)
seymour
adalius thomas
james sanders

easily shyts on any team peyton has had till this year

2005 colts had just as much talent. More on offense but Pats defense was slightly better so its a wash. Easily shyts on any team Peyton's had? Maybe cause Peyton didnt do too much with his stacked teams :sas2:
 

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Detroit You bytch Ass nikka
But u call peytons seasons failures and he ha a bunch of seasons simular
I don't do that bruh, records are records, wins are wins, greatness is greatness no matter what the end result is to me :yeshrug:. I stick with facts whenever I debate sports, fact of the matter is, both of these nikkas have had all time great individual seasons, both have broken records, both are CONSTANTLY at the top of their divisions, and both have had failures. They are both 1 and 2 all time to me, and I cant put 1 over the other.
 

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"even?" Peyton the GOAT, I don't understand how you say "even"

Matt Cassel coming in and posting career numbers effectively made Brady look like a product of the system from there on out
you're about as bright as a nightlight, aren't you...
 

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Realest posts in this thread. :salute:



Has Brady not had his best individual seasons under the new rules? It's :dwillhuh:/:mindblown: when people try to bring the rule changes into a discussion of contemporaries. I'm sure Brady (and all the records he's broken since the changes were made) hasn't benefitted from the rules changes...only Peyton :comeon:.
:rudy: and Brady has stayed shytting on Manning then and now. Win 10 out of 14 games against someone and have the Coli say you're not on their "level", brehs.
 
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